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tanner2007




Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 80

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Muscles Don't Show? Reply with quote

I Work Out My Arms And Yet I Only See Muscles When I Flex I Want To See Them When I Don't Flex How Do I Do It?

Also

I Need To Know IF My Workout List IS Ok

Monday:Chest,Abs
Tuesday:Biceps,Forearms,Tricep,Abs
Wensday:Back
Thursday:Shoulder,Traps
Friday:Hamstring,Quadriceps,Butt,Calf


Is everything ok or where it is to be?
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swanso5




Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 6891
Location: melbourne, australia

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if not going for a full body approach then change to this;

mon - lower in ordeer of quads, hams, butt, calves
tue - upper in order of back, chest, delts, bi's, tris
wed - off
thu - lower
fri - off
sat - upper
sun - off
* can do abs on 2 off days with cardio or when yuo want

for muscles to show you need to actaully build some and them strip some bodyfat off so you can see it
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tanner2007




Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 80

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IDK THAT SOUNDS KINDA WIERD TO ME I DO WANT TO WORK EVERY THING IN MY BODY
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swanso5




Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 6891
Location: melbourne, australia

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

u still will here but allows for more recovery also which is when you grow
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tanner2007




Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 80

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I DON'T UNDERSTAND
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swanso5




Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 6891
Location: melbourne, australia

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wat don't you understand?

just because your not isolating certain muscles (i.e. bi's with curls) doesn't mean there not getting worked and this is where 80% of trainers go wrong...if they were doing the correct exercises (in bi's case rows and chin ups) properly, then they shouldn't need any further work...this is the same with tri's (benches, shoulder presses), forearms (rows, chins, deads and almost everything else), front delts (shoulder and bench presses) and abs (basic compound lifts)

Your Plan
Monday:Chest,Abs
Tuesday:Biceps,Forearms,Tricep,Abs
Wensday:Back
Thursday:Shoulder,Traps
Friday:Hamstring,Quadriceps,Butt,Calf

My Plan
mon - lower in order of quads, hams, butt, calves
tue - upper in order of back, chest, delts, bi's, tris
wed - off
thu - lower
fri - off
sat - upper
sun - off
* can do abs on 2 off days with cardio or when yuo want

the same are trained in my plan than your except that they get trained twice a week instead of 1...you can't tell me your abs and forearms need 7 days rest
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Dado




Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 29

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tanner2007 wrote:
I DON'T UNDERSTAND


I'm just a beginner but from what I've understood. You 1st need to bulk up, gain muscle mass, and then "carve" it down with definition exercizes. In simple terms. Say your ideal weight would be 80kgs (176lbs). When you make it to 80kgs, you then gain extra 5kgs of muscle mass (10 lbs), and then start working definition exercizes down back to 80kg in order to shape your muscles... You can't expect them to show off for you that easily Wink
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tanner2007




Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 80

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from what everyone tell me do like legs one dayy then chest then back but u are telling me to do upper bod rest then lower bod are you sure aobut that
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Dado




Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 29

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tanner2007 wrote:
from what everyone tell me do like legs one dayy then chest then back but u are telling me to do upper bod rest then lower bod are you sure aobut that

Most people combine two muscle groups. in 3 days. One bigger with one smaller. For example: Chest/Triceps. Back/Biceps. Legs/Shoulders.
Some, like me can only take full potential off of their legs if they do them separately. So my routine is:
Day 1: Chest/Triceps (abs before and after exercizes)
Day 3: Shoulders/Traps (abs before and after exercizes)
Day 4: Legs/Butt/Calves
Day 5: Back/Biceps (abs before and after exercizes)

Day 2 and 6: are either rest or cardio (but at least one of these days must be cardio)
Day 7: off.
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seanform




Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to take Wed off. Even though you are training different body parts you are not giving the nervous sytstem a rest.
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swanso5




Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 6891
Location: melbourne, australia

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is conflicting info out there but really you need to try the different options and find out what works for YOU... if you've tried doing 1 muscle a day and it hasn't worked ten try the 2 muscles a day or the fulkl body approach...play around with things as different people will respond to different programs
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Jonny




Joined: 31 Aug 2006
Posts: 44
Location: Ayr/Glasgow

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with alot of the points being made especially matters coupled with the importance of rest. This of course is critical for growth and recovery. However, if the 'flex' or definition look is what you are after there are two other things you need to analyse (besides the correct exercises). These include your diet and bodyfat percentage. Less bodyfat equals more definition and emphasises the notion of 'flex'. Therefore start cuttin carbs and stocking up on cottage cheese! Very Happy
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