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mariah84




Joined: 10 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:06 am    Post subject: Night time crashes Reply with quote

O.k, my typical day of eating starts off really well..for example today I had:

7:30 Oatmeal w/raisins and blueberries (15 mins after) and coffee

9:30 green tea, cherries, rice chips (10 sm pcs)

11:30 taco salad minus the chips and any carbs + salad, cherries for dessert

2:30 small banana

4:30 small bowl of pasta (1/2 cup w/ beef marina sauce) and small salad

THIS IS WHERE IT GETS BAD

after about an hour or so of hiking+ 45 min walk w/dog I come home and have:

9:30 pm

salad, 2 sm pc of toast, 2 pc chocolate, couple tbs of peanut butter, egg white, 2 tbs marina sauce, yogurt, 2 turkey slices

not only is that a lot of food in one sitting, but I tend to eat a lot of everything because I can't just pick one thing and have tremendous cravings..am I not getting enough of something during the day that I'm hvaing these ridiculous cravings at night? any input or suggestions is welcomed!!

haha actually now that Im looking at it, maybe I can use more protein?? (during the day)
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swanso5




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Location: melbourne, australia

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

- meal 2 add protein (chicken, tuna, fish, meat, turkey, eggs) and probably ditch rice chips
- meal 4 add protein and veggies and/or salad
- clearly the last meal needs attention...prtoein, veggies and salad are what you SHOULD have but only you can make yourself do it...don't have any crap in the house and you can't have it wothout having to go and get it and after hiking you probably won't be bothered anyway...probably not enough rptoein during the day which will fill yuo up for longer
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Boss Man




Joined: 25 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Night time crashes Reply with quote

mariah84 wrote:

7:30 Oatmeal w/raisins and blueberries (15 mins after) and coffee. Have the Blueberries 15 minutes before the Raisins and Oatmeal. If you're trying to improve Blueberry digestion, 15 minutes after Oatmeal is no good, you need it around 15 mins before not after.

9:30 green tea, cherries, rice chips (10 sm pcs) Rice Chips seem a bit pointless. Cherries are about 1.1g Carbs per Cherry. This means Carbs are low unless you eat abotu 25-30 of them, and Protein is low. You need something here like Low Fat Cheese, Chicken, Turkey, Soybeans, Tofu.

11:30 taco salad minus the chips and any carbs + salad, cherries for dessert Cherry digestion will be affected by Salad. Either wait 10-15 minutes pre Salad to eat them, or chuck them. Again, Protein sources outlined above, should be the main priority

2:30 small banana Re: previous comments on Protein

4:30 small bowl of pasta (1/2 cup w/ beef marina sauce) and small salad Pasta is not too bad, but try buying Protein enriched to get more Protein, and keep portions low, to reduce Glycemic load.


The following nutrition you mentioned explains itself, but with more Protein, you should be better sated, and not want to troff on bits of crud.
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mariah84




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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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7:30 Oatmeal w/raisins and blueberries (15 mins after) and coffee. Have the Blueberries 15 minutes before the Raisins and Oatmeal. If you're trying to improve Blueberry digestion, 15 minutes after Oatmeal is no good, you need it around 15 mins before not after.

9:30 green tea, cherries, rice chips (10 sm pcs) Rice Chips seem a bit pointless. Cherries are about 1.1g Carbs per Cherry. This means Carbs are low unless you eat abotu 25-30 of them, and Protein is low. You need something here like Low Fat Cheese, Chicken, Turkey, Soybeans, Tofu.

11:30 taco salad minus the chips and any carbs + salad, cherries for dessert Cherry digestion will be affected by Salad. Either wait 10-15 minutes pre Salad to eat them, or chuck them. Again, Protein sources outlined above, should be the main priority

2:30 small banana Re: previous comments on Protein

4:30 small bowl of pasta (1/2 cup w/ beef marina sauce) and small salad Pasta is not too bad, but try buying Protein enriched to get more Protein, and keep portions low, to reduce Glycemic load.



The following nutrition you mentioned explains itself, but with more Protein, you should be better sated, and not want to troff on bits of crud.


O.k, thanks it makes sense what you said. The fruit part is really good to know

Do you think it would be wise to cut the rice chips out completely or maybe switch it with whole wheat chips (sm. handful?) chips, crackers give me the sated feeling. I appreciate your knowledge and will glady pick your brain again!

July 18:

7:30: oatmeal + raisins, acidophilus (to recover from the binge the night before), green tea and blueberries (before the oatmeal)

10:00: coffee w/skim, almonds, banana, rice crackers

12:15 sardines, salad, 1/2 turkey wrap and water

3:00 blueberries, watermelon

4:30 PB, lowfat yogurt

7:30: chicken thigh, rice, greek salad

Today I felt good besides the morning..felt full till about 10:00 pm which detered me from overeating at night.

p.s. how come "fit tracker" isn't combined with shapefit? it would be so much easier and user friendly if you can log in once..just curious
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Boss Man




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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Fit Tracker, is a seperate entity.

Rice Chips, don't see the need. Think you could maybe replace them with Rice Cakes instead, as an example.

Especially if you want to keep a Rice soruce in there. Otherwise, maybe add a little Carb by some other means.

Using a Brown Rice source, more often than White.
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mariah84




Joined: 10 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

7:30 -blueberries, oatmeal+raisins+unsweetened soy milk, coffee

8:30-green tea

9:45-rice crackers, almonds, nectarine

about 10 mins after still hungry so I mixed protein powder w/coffee(omg, it was good!)

12:00-brown rice, salad, sweet potatoes

12:15-watermelon for dessert

workout 3:00-5:00

5:30 brown rice and curry (lamb pieces, carrots, potatoes(sparingly), onions) +salad

walk the dog

6:30 green tea

8:30 grrr...2 glass red wine, 2 "west coast pockets", some yam fries at Cactus Club

I think I had an overall good day..good workout, fairly clean eating until I met with old friends and had the wine and other fanfare
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swanso5




Joined: 16 Jan 2006
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Location: melbourne, australia

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rule number 1 - eat breakfast as soon as you get up
rule number 2 - eat protein everytime you eat...there's a few meals that are carbs only so we need to add protein to them
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mariah84




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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can totally do the eat breakfast first thing..I love it! what are some different ways I can get protein in without it necessarily being meat?? or canned tuna? haha I'm kind of stuck here..I usually stick to the same sort of food
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Boss Man




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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuna has Mercury, and frankly, would you want it for Breakfast?

You could have things like Low Fat Cheese, Egg Whites, 1/2 scoop Protein Powder, Kedgeree, which is a sort of Fish, Rice, Peas dish. Typically associated with Breakfast, or perhaps something like Baked Beans.

You could make a small healthy equivalent to the Fried Breakfast. Slice of Toasted Wheatbread, A few Scrambled Egg whites and a yolk, some Baked Beans, and some Grilled Mushroom.
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mariah84




Joined: 10 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha sorry, I wasn't clear..I didn't mean for breakfast-just protein in general. Breakfast is def my favorite meal and I wouldn't go near tuna first thing in the morning unless I was making it for lunch. Ya, for brown bagged lunches.
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mariah84




Joined: 10 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

July 22nd: crap, just realized I haven't kept track for a couple days..

8:30: blueberries

sleep

1:30: whole grain toast w/ PB, scrambled egg whites + 1 yolk, a couple pcs. of steak, green tea
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quickness




Joined: 15 Oct 2007
Posts: 37

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it may seem hard to go to sleep when your hungry but force yourself to do that. you will be saving calories. if i ever get hungry past 9 I go straight to bed unless i feel like im gonna die i don't eat. you know that there is food if you need any and when you go to sleep you usually wake up less hungry.

actually don't listen to this post. I do this myself not sure if its helpful.
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DianaB




Joined: 05 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you eat 6 regular meals a day, you won't be hungry at night. Going to bed hungry is not a good choice. Deprevation won't lead to weight loss or strength gains.
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quickness




Joined: 15 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DianaB wrote:
If you eat 6 regular meals a day, you won't be hungry at night. Going to bed hungry is not a good choice. Deprevation won't lead to weight loss or strength gains.


wait so toughing it out and going to bed is not good? i thought it was the other way around
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sassygirl




Joined: 21 Sep 2007
Posts: 50

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont go to bed hungry...The only time your body heals itself is when you sleep....and honestly how good can you sleep if your hungry!
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