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boricua3205

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Joesportstalk

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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I am curious about these too. |
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swanso5

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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:01 am Post subject: |
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i missed this one...
doesn't look to do naything your hands can't do to me
waste of cash i think |
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DianaB

Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 681
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:14 am Post subject: |
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These dumb things have been posted about here a few times.
WHAT IF, you used a dumb bell, then after, you can lift it too! |
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Joesportstalk

Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Posts: 90
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| DianaB wrote: | These dumb things have been posted about here a few times.
WHAT IF, you used a dumb bell, then after, you can lift it too! |
Well is there any extra benefit to the turning effect you get with the push up product? As with a dumbbell it is always in the same hand position ( well I guess you could use different positions like set the dum bell horizontal or vertical for a different hand position too) but what about the turning in motion aspect does that create any significant benefit by itself?
I hope that was not too confusing LOL I made myself dizzy with that post hehe |
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DianaB

Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 681
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I made a little experiment:
2 dumb bells and 2 plates on a 6 ml sheet of plastic (actually, it's a slick piece of laminate from a printing sample).
I found the twisting puts excess pressure on my elbows. There may be some residual lat action going on there as well. I think if you want to hit the upper heads on your pecs, a DB press ending in a neutral position will give you more bang for your buck.
I'm not sure that the twisting is going to do anything great for you. There are about a million push up variations, for me, I pocket the $14.99.
And I am generally skeptical about a product that is "As Seen on TV" and has some buff dude pitching it. You know he didn't get in that shape from a set of metal bars.
But it goes to show, with the right marketing, you can sell anything to somebody. |
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Boss Man

Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 3564
Location: My site, (Steelmuscle), and anywhere else I feel like
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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One thing I detest right now, is some kind of slimming iem, you wear.
One of these elastcated hings, that supposedly, pushes some cellulite back in so you look firmer around the Arse and Stomach area.
What I really detest, is the way the advert says, want to know how to look slimmer without diets or trips to the Gym.
Whatt!!!
Go ot a Gym and stop using stupid elastic products people. It absolutely gets right up my nose. It's an excuse for some lazy, people to carry on, knowing they don't have to workout, as if working only helps women to lose weight, or maybe improve stamina, I mean clearly nothing else happens to your body when you workout, does it DUH!!!
Stupid irresponsible adverts, advertising stupid products.
Let see what happens when these women wear these things, and some in several years time, wonder why they still have Cholesterol problems, blood pressure problems, Bone problems etc etc.
Or do these elasticated slimming aids, magically reduce your blood pressure, and dissolve cholesterol too? |
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Dalton85

Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 242
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:07 am Post subject: |
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| actually i've heard from friends that the perfect pushup DOES work....but the only emphasis given when you turn it is bicepts and extra delt work |
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swanso5

Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 6798
Location: melbourne, australia
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:40 am Post subject: |
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HOW does it work? does it make you bigger? does it make you stronger? i don't hink it would
it's the same as doing a DB Chest Press with the little arm twisty thing some people do so palms face each other at thetop but face down at your feet at the bottom
does this make you bigger than keeping your palms facing each other the whole time??
again i think not |
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nitecrawler

Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Posts: 126
Location: India
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swanso5

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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| i've got rings and i love them...best upper body piece of equipment you can get...easily |
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brooklyn11

Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: Hi boricua, For The Perfect Pushup Here We Go |
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Hi, I am Brooklyn and I am newbie to this forum
Over the years, I have developed several methods to increase pushups as well as written articles on these pushups. I have several men and women clients who started out doing push-ups on their knees but now can easily do 40 to 50 regular push-ups without stopping to rest. Here are some simple tips and workouts to help you get above-average scores on the PFT.
Proper Full-Body Warm-Up
Get the heart pumping and the arms warmed up by doing the following warm-up (repeat three to five times; it only takes 2 or 3 minutes):
Jumping jacks, 10
Push-ups, 10
After warming up, stretch the triceps and chest and shoulders:
Triceps/shoulders stretch:
Place both arms over and behind your head. Grab your right elbow with your left hand and pull your elbow toward your opposite shoulder. Lean into the pull to also stretch your back/oblique muscles. Switch arms and repeat.
Chest/shoulders stretch:
Pull your shoulders/arms back and stick your chest out. Hold for 15 seconds. Switch arms and repeat.
Techniques and Workouts
Go fast. For maximum points on the PFT, do the push-ups as quickly as you can. The slower you go, the more gravity will affect your strength. Adhere to proper form however.
Proper stance. Your hands should be about shoulder width apart. Lie on the floor with your hands even with your shoulders. Too many people place their hands too high or too low, which will weaken your push-ups tremendously.
Stay on your toes. Once you burn out, it is OK to go to your knees in order to finish the workout. Not only is the super set one of the best ways to increase your push-ups, but while you "rest" your push-up muscles, you can also increase your sit-ups.
Push-Up/Crunch Super Set
Do five to 10 cycles of:
Regular push-ups, 10
Regular crunches, 10
Wide push-ups, 10
Reverse crunches, 10
Triceps push-ups, 10
Left/right crunches, 10 each side
The timed workout is another way to increase your push-ups and sit-ups that also helps prepare you for training with the clock -- good practice for the PFT. Being timed is what leads to most people's PFT anxiety.
Timed Workout
Repeat twice:
1 minute of push-ups
1 minute of sit-ups
Repeat three times:
30 seconds of push-ups
30 seconds of sit-ups
Repeat four times:
15 seconds of push-ups
15 seconds of sit-ups
Try these workouts only resting while you do your crunches or sit-ups. These workouts are challenging and only take a few minutes to do. I recommend that you try to incorporate push-ups and crunches into your workout three times a week and every other day, if you are not following a detailed program. |
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swanso5

Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 6798
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| do you have your clients perform the same volume for rows??? |
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nitecrawler

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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:07 am Post subject: |
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swanso shouldn't the push ups be different from bench press regarding the amount of rows that need to be performed ? as pushups involve more scapular activation...
generally i do push ups followed by rowing with dumbbells in pushup position only, don't know what its called.. |
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swanso5

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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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955 of people doing push ups wouldn;t even think of scap control during them so your right, but the way people do them (not going doen far enough, lower the torso not the chest etc) wouldn't be catering for this unless your doing some sort of Push Up +...
push up rows i call them...
look at load balance too...you lift basically 60% of your bw doing a proper push up from the floor on your feet so if your 80kgs that's 45kgs your lifting right there...now for balance your gonna have to lift the same load for rows or at least pump up the volume for them if you can't or an imbalace in the shoulder girdle is waiting to happen
the above explaination is also why push ups will build more muscle and burn more fat until you can Bench 60% of your bw for the same reps you can push ups (15 - 20) as the load is heavier |
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