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kcb




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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:23 pm    Post subject: Dumbbell bench press Reply with quote

When I do the dumbbell bench press I get this horrible sharp pain on the right side of my lower back, I keep my back as flat on the floor as I possibly can (I dont have a bench at home so I do them on my bedroom floor), is this just a weakness in my back or am I doing this exercise wrong? It doesn't happen all the time, just most.
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swanso5




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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't know what that is...do you "squirm" when you lift from the floor? are your knees bent like a crunch or straight? do you set your shoulders properly (roll them up, together then down)?
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Boss Man




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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might possibly be the fact you're working on the Floor.

Try using a couple of folded up towels to support the Head, Neck, and middle of your back, and see if that helps.

If you do this, try it without without weight first, and see how it feels.

Might be something to consider.
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Christopheel




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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea when I started training I was doing DB Press on florr and had the same pain ... Fix it because the pain will stay for like 2 weeks ...
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DianaB




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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benching is rather awkward without a bench. I find that benching with an arched back and feet planted firmly on the floor, with elbows in (powerlift bench) is far more effective. Look for a bench, used if you must.
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swanso5




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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's nothing wrong with floor presses and i have a few client's doing them now but i think it's more of his set up, not the actual exercise
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kcb




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Location: Hertfordshire, England

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Her set up you mean Wink. Yeh its probably the position of my back that makes it hurt, I'll do what Boss has suggested and see if I get the same pain.
Thanks for the help.
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kcb




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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok dumbbell bench presses aren't the problem, its lying on the floor thats the problem. I think its pulling on my lower back bone some how and causing pain, I can feel it pull sort of apart a bit (like you do with double joints.) Not sure whats going on here, if anyone can give me any advice on this or refer me to an online medical adviser that would be great Confused
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swanso5




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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how's you posture? if your ass tilts up towards your head than that's the problem...check your underwear line and if it tilts up at the back to doen at the front then you have excessive anteriour pelvic tilt
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kcb




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think theres a slight tilt, can't really tell, is excessive anteriour pelvic tilt serious or can it be 'fixed' with exercise?
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swanso5




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it can if left for too long gradually getting worse and it can be fixed with exercise

strengthen - glutes, hams, core, upper and mid back

stretch - hip flexors, quads, calves and chest

search the neanderthal program by eric cressey
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Blades 2515




Joined: 26 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kcb wrote:
I think theres a slight tilt, can't really tell, is excessive anteriour pelvic tilt serious or can it be 'fixed' with exercise?


You're not alone. It is common for people to have tight hip-flexors and hamstrings. Make sure you stretch these!

I recommend Leg Circles and the Lunge & Twist for the hip-flexors. And Dynamic Toe Touches for your hamstrings.
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swanso5




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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the hamstrings don't actually get "tight" but rather they are in a constant lengthened position and are weak so the force couple between the hamstrings and the quads is out of whack...stretch the quads and flexors and strengthen the hams as posted above...most don't need a lot of ham stretching but rather strenghtening
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Blades 2515




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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swanso5 wrote:
the hamstrings don't actually get "tight" but rather they are in a constant lengthened position and are weak so the force couple between the hamstrings and the quads is out of whack...stretch the quads and flexors and strengthen the hams as posted above...most don't need a lot of ham stretching but rather strenghtening


Of course the hamstrings get "tight," just like any other muscle. While I agree that many people have a strength imbalance between their quads and hammies, a combination of hamstring stretching and strengthening will improve one's posture.
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swanso5




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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd be more worried about glute activation than hamstring flexibility, simply by doing that and strengthening the core you can pull things back into place
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