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Christopheel

Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 931
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="carefree"] | Christopheel wrote: | [
increase slowly increase your number of meals. quote]
Hi Chris
Yes i have just started to eat about 5 or 6 times a day. Three meals and 2 or three snacks |
It's a good start, now you need 6 real meal and then if possible 8 real meal.
Meal is pretty simple, solid protein +veggies or fruits depending of the time of the day. |
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carefree

Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 32
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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30 June
Calorie Summary
Daily Cal Quota 1367.0
+ Exercise Cals 425.5
Total Cal Quota 1792.5
Calories Consumed 1026.4
Calories left 766.1
Cals to maintain weight: 2377.0
Nutrition Summary
Calories (kcal) 1026.4
Protein (g) 122.8
Carbohydrate (g) 105.4
Fat (g) 11.7
Fibre (g) 23.2
Fruit & Veg 5.6
Food/Drink Serving Cals Prot Carb Fat Fibre
Porridge with Protein 245 23 26 5 5
Sandwich Tuna 200 20 25 1 3
My Salad 1 serving 27 1 4 1 2
Onions, Pickled 200 g 64 1 13 0 4
Impact Whey Protein (From Myprotein) Soya Milk, 338 74 1 3 3
Apples, Pink Lady, Tesco* 1 Med Apple/120g 60.0 0.5 14.2 0.1 2.2
Apples, Pink Lady, Tesco* 1 Med Apple/120g 60.0 0.5 14.2 0.1 2.2
The stats above are from WLR site that i have been on for years now, everything i eat i will put it down on here, its the only real way of knowing exactly what you are eating.
I can see i have eaten 6 times today, 3 meals and 3 snacks
1026 calories today, i suppose its not the best day but at least i wont lose weight on that. |
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swanso5

Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 6798
Location: melbourne, australia
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:00 am Post subject: |
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here's what it is and i'll be blunt..
all those numbers mean zip to me as your metabolim is probably complelety screwed...meaning if you won't "lose wt on 1026cals" then you're in trouble land, ecspecially at 190pds
toss all those numbers out, all of them
eat this:
1 - fruit, oatmeal, milk, 1/2 protein shake with water
2 - fruit, solid protein, veg, salad
3 - solid protein, veg, salad
4 - solid protein, veg, salad
5 - solid protein, veg, salad
whenever you train insert this after it:
protein shake, sugary cerial and milk or rice or pasta or bread
then simply continue on the plan where it left off
now for portion size you want a plam sized portion oif protein where it says solid protein and it has to be actual food...veggies are to be 1cp each time, fruit is 1 peice...oatmeal is a medium bowlful whatever that is
now if you need to stuff yourself then do so...in 2 - 3 weeks you're metabolism will ramp up and you'll need this at a minimum then we can build on it...eat by thye clock, not by your stomach so at 6 mealsa a day you'll eat every 3hrs or so depending on your waking hrs
plan out each day the night before so there's nothing left to chance, go shopping and prepare whatever you need to
keep me posted |
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carefree

Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 32
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Swanso
Great advice mate, but there is simply no chance of me eating that amount of food, there's just no way. Dont ask me why cos i dont know. I really appreciate your advice and if ever i can get my calories up to around 2500 a day i will come back to you for this sound advice. I think i have other issues that i need to sort first. This is why i started this so i can see how little i really do eat and then maybe try and sort it. If things dont work out i will have to talk to someone about it, maybe the doctors or my Mrs. Even reading your post about that much food had me shaking, lol, what a fucked up tart i am.
Thanks for the post you really are kind |
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DianaB

Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 681
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| carefree wrote: | Hello Swanso
Great advice mate, but there is simply no chance of me eating that amount of food, there's just no way. Dont ask me why cos i dont know. I really appreciate your advice and if ever i can get my calories up to around 2500 a day i will come back to you for this sound advice. I think i have other issues that i need to sort first. This is why i started this so i can see how little i really do eat and then maybe try and sort it. If things dont work out i will have to talk to someone about it, maybe the doctors or my Mrs. Even reading your post about that much food had me shaking, lol, what a fucked up tart i am.
Thanks for the post you really are kind |
Dude, you have some really negative vibes about yourself. And you are right, if looking at a normal diet scares you, go get some help. Your not a tart (maybe you mean a 'tard LOL I'm KIDDING). Good luck and take action with this issue, ASAP. |
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swanso5

Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 6798
Location: melbourne, australia
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: |
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all these excuses are weak, they really are...if chicks with eating disorders can come around then surely you can...
you don't need to knoiw exactly how little you eat, it's not enough...no numbers required to see that
it's not really that much food and we can spread it out as long as we want
2 weeks at 3 meals (meals 1, 2 and 3)
2 weeks at 4 meals
2 weeks at 5 meals
2 wekks at 6 meals
if we get you exercising properly to increase your energy requirements, you'll be hungry more often and you'll need to eat
i don't really care about calories at the moment, i just want some frequent feedings going on with you
have a crack at least, you're being soft and childish if you don't |
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carefree

Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 32
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Yesterday was a day to just forget so i have. Today, Friday, is my weekly weigh day and my weight has gone down by 3lbs, i am now 12st 13Lbs (181Lbs). Been to the Gym 5 times this week, with 2 cardio and 3 weight training. Next week i will up my calorie intake to 1200, and 1400 calories on gym days. Sine i have started this i have had more energy and i do feel that i am getting on top of things. Its getting harder to get the calories in, it is very difficult to eat when you are just not hungry. |
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Katiekate

Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Carefree, honestly, your training is doing more harm than good with your diet the way it is. You may be losing some fat, but you're losing even more muscle. That is why the scale is going down. You should not attempt any exercise program until you seek professional help and deal with your eating disorder. |
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Boss Man

Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 3565
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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I'd agree with the above. If you have an eating disorder, you need to be careful starting exercise. Exercise can increase Metabolism, and manipulate the Thyroid.
If you have an eating disorder, you might already have caused issues to your Thyroid, which could mean problems producing, TSH, T3, T4 or Calcitonin. Particularly with TSh, as that's a biggie, and partially controls T3 and T4 creation and usage.
Also Calcitonin can affect Bones, as it plays it's part in the formation of Bone, by working with certain Micronutrients. Exercise might not too good at this stage, if your Thyroid is functioning a bit poorly, and it's affecting Metabolism and Bones, as you don't want increased Bone issues, from exercise, because their tolerances have been reduced by underperforming Thyroid activity.
You need to seek medical assistance, as you need to know if the exercise and your previous issues, may be combining to have a problematic affect. |
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swanso5

Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 6798
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| at least can the cardio...keep the wts though to keep bones strong |
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carefree

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:09 am Post subject: |
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Not sure how true my new scales are but i have just got them, they are called Mibody, they are meant to be good. They are telling me that my weight is 12st 13lb fat 17.4 muscle 41.4 Water 60.9 bmi 20.1. My fat goes down every week and my muscle seems to be going up, but only if i do go to the gym. I dont know how good they really are but that cost me enough money so i would like to think they are as near as i am going to get. I am upping my calorie intake again this week, starting with yesterday, and sll went well as i was hungry, so i eat, and eat all that i set myself. I have never admitted to anyone that i have a eating disorder, but my be i do have some problems with food.
Have a great weekend |
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swanso5

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:21 am Post subject: |
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it soesn';t matter if they are out or not as the variance will always stay the same so as long as muscle is going up, water is going up and fat is going down, all is good
you're getting hungry which is metabolism raising to keep making those increases |
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carefree

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:53 am Post subject: |
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I do feel a lot happier today, all ready had my porridge with protein powder (250 Calories) and i have just finished my eating plan for the next eight weeks. I will continue with my new plan as it dose seem to be working. As someone said to me on here, I must eat at the times i have set and not just when i feel hungry. And i must NOT take any notice of the voice in my head that keep telling me not to eat this and not to eat that, or the eat it later voice that i always hear. I still have my band list of foods, and my eat sparingly list of foods. I have had these for years now but maybe and with the help of shape fit, i might be able to start eating from that list, but one step at a time i think.
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carefree

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| swanso5 wrote: | it soesn';t matter if they are out or not as the variance will always stay the same so as long as muscle is going up, water is going up and fat is going down, all is good
you're getting hungry which is metabolism raising to keep making those increases |
Yes i will do. Thanks for all your help, my friend |
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swanso5

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| i eat very few foods myself...i just eat a lot of them is all...you'll be right mate |
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