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x_rated_mo · Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 154 Location: Toronto

For example, parts like my abs, my triceps i wanna cut up. But parts like my shoulder or back i wanna buff up. i wanna increase muscle mass and get those boulder shoulders, and for parts like my biceps, i wanna increase the mass on those cuz they say my biceps arent proportionate with the rest of my arm.
Could i do, for instance, 4 sets of 12 for triceps (to cut up) and like 4 sets of 8-10 for shoulders (to buff up) and get both results happening ?

swanso5 · Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:11 am Post subject:

no

i would lean down first than bulk up...lean down to 8 - 10% bodyfat than bulk until at about 12 - 14% then lean back down to 8 and so on

x_rated_mo · Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 154 Location: Toronto

Hmmm. Yeah, sure i'll lean down first, why not. makes more sense then my idea .. but why doesnt that work though ? maybe becuz all muscles have the same way of growing ? but muscles like bi/abs or back/tri they are afterall different muscles that have no relation to eachother.

swanso5 · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:20 am Post subject:

it's all calorie intake...if you're eating more than your using you'll get heavier...if you're eating less than you're using you'll get lighter...this is what make sit hard to do both at the same time...you need do do periods of eating a little less and increasing activity to lean down followed by periods of eating a more and decreasing cardio to build up..also when you do build up you will build up everywhere not just 1 - 2 areas you think that you're specifically targeting which is why deads and squats are better than curls and pushdowns for arm size

SarahPT · Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 603 Location: Western Maine

Swanso is right. It's not impossible to do both at the same time, but it's rather difficult. Muscles grow from eating more calories than you consume, and fat is lost by eating fewer calories than you consume.

Typically I actually recommend going through a muscle growth cycle before a fat loss cycle. The reason is that people often find themselves gaining fat and muscle at the same time. It's hard to just enough calories to gain muscle, but not too much so fat growth happens as well. Some people do well at only gaining muscle, while others simply don't.

Sarah

Boss Man · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject:

Yeah, it also depends on whether you're Ectomorhpic, Mesomorphic or Endomorphic. That dictates to a small extent, how your body adapts to diet and training.

I mean the concept of "spot reducing" is not really possible, as you can't target specific areas.

You can eat enough Protein and Carbs, to get a good chance of some muscle growth, without having too many calories, but you could still run the risk, of losing some mass, if the calories were not close to your previous levels.

x_rated_mo · Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 154 Location: Toronto

Hmmm. I see .. yaa i'm on to u swanso, i do do squats and deadlifts--but i also do curls.. its not wrong to incorporate both is it ?
Yeah see the thing is I did do a muscle growth cycle--for a while now--i mean i havent been workin out for a simple 2 weeks or anythin like that. but while i worked out--i included cardio--cuz i guess i love both and i just wanna do both of em.. but i guess i'll stick to one of em