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elti54




Joined: 29 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: MMA workout Reply with quote

I used to be an Offensive Tackle in football, and one of the best in my province when I was in gr.11, however I got diagnosed with a spine disease and herniated several discs in my back one day at practice.

I had about 99.9% of doctors telling me that, If i played contact sports id cripple myself from the waist down (parapalegic).

However I found a sports doctor who told me, although as stupid as my desire to hit people and get hit by people is, and even more dumb my desire to do so with a probability of becomming crippled, he told me the way to do so.

Stop playing Rugby and Football and find a new contact sport
strengthen my mid section
increase my flexibility
and lose all of my "Offensive Tackle" weight

so i found a sport that i love, that requires me to do all of the above to compete

MMA.

I was wondering if there is anyone out there that Trains - Boxing, Judo, Ji Jitsu, Mui Thai, etc. that has any good training advice, drills, weightroom exercises.

A few things to consider in my training however

I cannot do deadlifts because of my back
I cannot do squats because of my back

so im reduced to hill running, plyometrics, box hopping etc.
although my leg strength is already stupid strong from driving 300 pound guys out of the way from football.... 10 years of football playing Offensive Line will do that for you lol.

Feel free to talk in any concepts u want, Ive taken University Biomed classes and Kinese Classes, Im a football coach, and a SPARTAN trainer (Canadian Equivilant to the famous SPARQ training in the States).
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elti54




Joined: 29 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also ive pretty much taken every supplement conceivable possible except for roids obviously... eff people who roid.

Going from 250-210 (football to rugby) 4-5 times over a 4-5 year span, in a 3 month interval everytime was kind of a pain without sups since my body took so much friggin abuse sitting on the bordeline of over training.

I have however since i finished growing never been under 200 pounds, and that is going to be weight requirement to meet.

This is partly because the rugby season was only 2 months (per team played on 2 teams), whereas football season was 4 (per team played on 2 teams).

Generally when I start training I drink water like its a hobby, consume 5000+ calories a day, and train to the point where I nearly puke or definatly puke. I eat 5 times a day Breaky - Workout -Post Workout Meal - Lunch - Dinner - Workout- Post work out - Bed.

I like to train at night, because I am a night person, so generally my late night performance is 10x better than my morning. Which is why in the mornings i just slug out the long run, and at night do all my weight lifting and sprinting.

However I havent trained like an elite athlete in well over a year, so it will probly take me 2 months to get back in the grove of things.

So any PT's out there, that have experience working with Elite Athletes, or any MMA fighters that have any good Power Training Programs.

I need to get frm 240 down to 190 by May 2010, Ill be headin to the states to my first Tournament in June 2010.

Currently Right Now I have a year of Amateur Boxing experience and 2 years of Amateur Jiu Jitsu, my best friend is Black Belt in Jiu Jitsu so although i have just a white belt (haha) I train with black belts all the time and apparantly if i went through the actual grading system id get my brown belt (or so im told) But i hate Gui Jiu Jitsu with a passion i only take it as a means to an end.
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swanso5




Joined: 16 Jan 2006
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Location: melbourne, australia

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

- if you've never been under 200pds it's gonna bloody hard to get there and it won't happen in 12 weeks either
- are you training 2/day??
- training til you puke?? not good
- long running is long gone, with the dark ages
- you need a lot more strength qualities before power is introduced
- go to diet section and read "read before posting..." for food
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elti54




Joined: 29 Oct 2008
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-haha well ive been under 200 but that was gr.7 when i was 6'2 and had no muscle lol... but no i have essential 8 months to a year to drop 50 pounds
-Ya 2 a days... story of my life...
-agree puking is no good, unfortunately I had some oldschool coaches, no one really new school.
If you dont puke your not workin hard enough - dumb old school principle but it happens sometimes.
-i just do long running along with sprinting to get my cardio vasc up
since an MMA fight can go 5 5 minute rounds, of intense activity
-could u elaborate on strength and power
to my understanding strength is the ability to exert force onto an object, where as power is the ability to exert force onto an object with speed. So the stronger u are, and faster you are, the more power u will have
-diet i dont need so much help with, know all about le diet aspects:) my gf is also a Biomed Toxicology Major so i hear all about food:P.
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swanso5




Joined: 16 Jan 2006
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Location: melbourne, australia

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

- long running makes you good at long running, not sport which is 90% anaerobic...as stated hammer down strength has some brutal circuits in it for memory
- your strength and power thing is correct...so the questioin is are you strong enough yet? i'm thinking no without deads and squats
- not sure what a biomed toxicology major is but it doesn;t mean she can put together a diet plan just because she knows what's every food...it's like doctors prescribing exercise...they're good at "doctoreing" but absolutely fucked at prescribing exercise
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HOUSTON TEXAN




Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Posts: 715

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swanso5 wrote:
- long running makes you good at long running, not sport which is 90% anaerobic...as stated hammer down strength has some brutal circuits in it for memory
- your strength and power thing is correct...so the questioin is are you strong enough yet? i'm thinking no without deads and squats
- not sure what a biomed toxicology major is but it doesn;t mean she can put together a diet plan just because she knows what's every food...it's like doctors prescribing exercise...they're good at "doctoreing" but absolutely fucked at prescribing exercise


I wouldn't say doctors are terrible at giving exercise advice. The difference between a doctor's advice and a PT's advice is the doctor's advice is probably more optimal for health.
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swanso5




Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 7328
Location: melbourne, australia

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go and ask one, they are terribly shit

i had a client who said her doctor said to lose fat you must train for 2hrs everyday...so she did...both morons (not a client anymore, she was a bit insane in the end)
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Mystik




Joined: 23 Sep 2008
Posts: 66

PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I train for MMA and I have incorporated the hammer down method into my workouts. Great stuff and I highly recommend it.
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