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abida




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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: what ratio? Reply with quote

Hi everyone!

What a great site! I am 5.1 and weigh 80kg (175?) i am a mother of 4 (all c-sections) which coupled with poor diet and little exercise have left me with a terrible body. Embarassed

My kids are at school now so i have a strong desire and determination to sort myself out! Can anyone tell me what the best way to utilise the 2 hr gym time i have now 5 days a week? How long/which machine for cardio and how long should i be strength training? Maybe i am so fat i should just be doing cardio? Also how low on the calories should i go? I tried two weeks with relatively clean eating(2 cheats) all the recommended foods-but didnt weigh or measure......gained 5 pounds!
I am 36 yrs old with no medical problems......just dont want to be without an aim.......thanks in advance. Question
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swanso5




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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2hrs at a time is too much


do wts 3 x 40 - 50mins a week

cardio 2 x 30mins max a week doing intervals for 20mins max if you can

go to diet section and read "read before posting.."
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abida




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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your response swan..........could you tell me roughly the amounts of protein in grams please?
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swanso5




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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 gram per pound of bodyweight so 175-ish grams everyday
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Boss Man




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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being a female, I'd suggest you reduce to around 0.8g per lb of bodyweight, so it's around 140, which for around 6 meals a day, works out at roughly 23g Protein per meal.

I would suggest, you go for 25g Protein per meal, and then just 15g in the last meal, so you're not getting a shed load of calories at night if you don't want them.
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abida




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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, thanks for your advice swan and boss man. Very Happy
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Boopster




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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Re: what ratio? Reply with quote

abida wrote:
Hi everyone!

What a great site! I am 5.1 and weigh 80kg (175?) i am a mother of 4 (all c-sections) which coupled with poor diet and little exercise have left me with a terrible body. Embarassed

My kids are at school now so i have a strong desire and determination to sort myself out! Can anyone tell me what the best way to utilise the 2 hr gym time i have now 5 days a week? How long/which machine for cardio and how long should i be strength training? Maybe i am so fat i should just be doing cardio? Also how low on the calories should i go? I tried two weeks with relatively clean eating(2 cheats) all the recommended foods-but didnt weigh or measure......gained 5 pounds!
I am 36 yrs old with no medical problems......just dont want to be without an aim.......thanks in advance. Question


Welcome to the site! Remember the toughest job you'll ever have is being a mom. But you can be the best mom to them by taking the steps to care for yourself. The rewards are endless and you're children will thank you for it Very Happy

2 hours...much to long workout hun. I only do 20 minutes on my weight training days (4 days a week) and 45-60 on cardio days only. You have better things to do than be a slave to the gym sister! Work on trying to eat 6 smaller means a day ( I know that can be difficult with family) but do the best you can. Eat good quality proteins to bulid that muscle and shed that fat! Good luck to you Wink
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abida




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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Boopster for your reply. I am still unsure about how many calories i should be having on a daily basis. i am sure struggling to divide 1200 cals over the day into six meals! I try and have protein in each meal...200 cals a meal is such a challenge! Because i am so short, unfit, and so overweight i am afraid to consume more cals.....but saying that i always end up overeating and my calories creep up to 1500-1600! Surely i wont lose body fat at this rate?

Your opinion/advice would be really appreciated. Confused
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JNicole2009




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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1200 is very low! What are your regular meals like right now?
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Boopster




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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

abida wrote:
Thanks Boopster for your reply. I am still unsure about how many calories i should be having on a daily basis. i am sure struggling to divide 1200 cals over the day into six meals! I try and have protein in each meal...200 cals a meal is such a challenge! Because i am so short, unfit, and so overweight i am afraid to consume more cals.....but saying that i always end up overeating and my calories creep up to 1500-1600! Surely i wont lose body fat at this rate?

Your opinion/advice would be really appreciated. Confused


Glad I could help you. I wish I could offer solid advice as far as your nutrition goes, but I have no formal education in nutrition and only have knowledge on the subject given to me specifically per my trainer. I do know this. You need to eat to lose weight. It's what you eat that makes the big difference. Check out the diet and nutrition section on this board. I never really counted calories. I weighed all my protein, and measured all my carbs. You may want to PM poster SarahPT or get in contact with a nutritionist that can lead you in the right direction. I wouldn't want to lead you down the wrong path nutritionally. Hope this helps and keep moving girl Wink
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abida




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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JNicole2009 wrote:
1200 is very low! What are your regular meals like right now?


hi Nicole,

At the moment each meal either has egg/egg whites, 1 quarter of a chicken, cottage cheese, salad or steamed veg and i have 3 pieces of fruit, 2 x rice cakes, 1 tsp of peanut buttet and 1 slice of wholemeal bread.i try to eat every 3 hrs but sometimes its not possible. Question
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abida




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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad I could help you. I wish I could offer solid advice as far as your nutrition goes, but I have no formal education in nutrition and only have knowledge on the subject given to me specifically per my trainer. I do know this. You need to eat to lose weight. It's what you eat that makes the big difference. Check out the diet and nutrition section on this board. I never really counted calories. I weighed all my protein, and measured all my carbs. You may want to PM poster SarahPT or get in contact with a nutritionist that can lead you in the right direction. I wouldn't want to lead you down the wrong path nutritionally. Hope this helps and keep moving girl Wink[/quote]

Thanks Boopster.......i will have to look into this more carefully.....anyone with advice on calorie amounts? I am alternating weights and cardio days..but will i lose weight on the days i am not doing cardio? thanks
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Boss Man




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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes you can help yourself to lose weight on Cardio days, as you're still spiking your Metabolism, but the alternate weight asnd Cardio days, is a better option that just endless Cardio, so you're doing the right thing on that score.

abida wrote:

At the moment each meal either has egg/egg whites, 1 quarter of a chicken, cottage cheese, salad or steamed veg and i have 3 pieces of fruit, 2 x rice cakes, 1 tsp of peanut buttet and 1 slice of wholemeal bread.i try to eat every 3 hrs but sometimes its not possible. Question


With the Diet you outlined above, can you put it into a sort of timetable, I.E. what foods at what times, as I don't know what combinations of the foods you just listed you eat, and how you space them.

They are good choices pretty much, but a meal schedule will help us to tweak what you're doing. Thanks Smile.
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abida




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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

abida wrote:
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At the moment each meal either has egg/egg whites, 1 quarter of a chicken, cottage cheese, salad or steamed veg and i have 3 pieces of fruit, 2 x rice cakes, 1 tsp of peanut buttet and 1 slice of wholemeal bread.i try to eat every 3 hrs but sometimes its not possible. Question


With the Diet you outlined above, can you put it into a sort of timetable, I.E. what foods at what times, as I don't know what combinations of the foods you just listed you eat, and how you space them.

They are good choices pretty much, but a meal schedule will help us to tweak what you're doing. Thanks Smile.[/quote]

OK, thanks for your advice Boss man.....heres what and when i eat......

MEAL 1=9AM 1oz homemade chicken grilled, 1 wholemeal toast with 3% cheese triangle and 1 tsp of jam...coffee little skimmed milk.

10.30-11.30 GYM alternate days i do weights or cardio. i do 20 mins each HIIT session on treadmill and elliptical followed by core ball exercises and squats for 15 mins. On a weights day i do about 1 hour of chest dumbells presses, weighted squats and lunges, push ups, swiss ball ab work with kettle ball and dumbells, flutter kicks, bicycle, ball pull ins etc.

MEAL 2=12.00 150 cals or fruit

MEAL 3= 2.30PM 1 egg +1 egg white(no fat), 1oz chicken grilled, 1 tbspn low cottage cheese, small salad, 1 tsp of hot pepper sauce.

MEAL 4= 5.00PM 2 rice cakes with 1 tsp of peanut butter tea

MEAL 5= 8.00PM 1 quarter grilled baby chicken, 5 tbspns boiled/steamed veg, 1 whole sharon fruit

i try to abstain from further eating till bed (around 11pm) but sometimes i have the rice cakes again with low fat cheese triangle and smidge of jam Embarassed

cant wait to here what you think!

abida Smile
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abida




Joined: 23 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

abida wrote:
abida wrote:
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At the moment each meal either has egg/egg whites, 1 quarter of a chicken, cottage cheese, salad or steamed veg and i have 3 pieces of fruit, 2 x rice cakes, 1 tsp of peanut buttet and 1 slice of wholemeal bread.i try to eat every 3 hrs but sometimes its not possible. Question


With the Diet you outlined above, can you put it into a sort of timetable, I.E. what foods at what times, as I don't know what combinations of the foods you just listed you eat, and how you space them.

They are good choices pretty much, but a meal schedule will help us to tweak what you're doing. Thanks Smile.


OK, thanks for your advice Boss man.....heres what and when i eat......

MEAL 1=9AM 1oz homemade chicken grilled, 1 wholemeal toast with 3% cheese triangle and 1 tsp of jam...coffee little skimmed milk.

10.30-11.30 GYM alternate days i do weights or cardio. i do 20 mins each HIIT session on treadmill and elliptical followed by core ball exercises and squats for 15 mins. On a weights day i do about 1 hour of chest dumbells presses, weighted squats and lunges, push ups, swiss ball ab work with kettle ball and dumbells, flutter kicks, bicycle, ball pull ins etc.

MEAL 2=12.00 150 cals or fruit

MEAL 3= 2.30PM 1 egg +1 egg white(no fat), 1oz chicken grilled, 1 tbspn low cottage cheese, small salad, 1 tsp of hot pepper sauce.

MEAL 4= 5.00PM 2 rice cakes with 1 tsp of peanut butter tea

MEAL 5= 8.00PM 1 quarter grilled baby chicken, 5 tbspns boiled/steamed veg, 1 whole sharon fruit

i try to abstain from further eating till bed (around 11pm) but sometimes i have the rice cakes again with low fat cheese triangle and smidge of jam Embarassed

cant wait to here what you think!

abida Smile[/quote]Hi Bossman..........may i ask what your opinion is on my diet at the moment? I am so worried......i feel i am putting on weight! Sad
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