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Dalton85 · Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 242

how do you get you're shoulder into that "circular shape" like when its really defined..and it looks like a ball right above your tricept

swanso5 · Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:03 am Post subject:

heavy db shoulder presses, push presses clean and press etc

Dalton85 · Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 242

are heavy shoulder db presses the same as the shoulder press machine? except i hold the press machine with myknuckles coming towards me instead of outwards

EDIT: also whenever i do any exercise where i lift something over my head my lower/mid back gets EXTREAMLY uncomforttable and almost weak feeling and i have to stop and crack my back halfway through my set to finish it

swanso5 · Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:48 am Post subject:

theyvare the same but db's are better

your back is taking too much pressure from the shoulder presses from a very weak core

maybe lay off them until your core is stronger or you'll get yourself injured

Dalton85 · Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 242

core as in abs or transverse abs or like...what

that core article from t-nation?

swanso5 · Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:21 am Post subject:

the core is made up of all ab muscles, low back and glutes so all 3 probably need attention

abs - search 21st century core training and c ore training for smart folks both mike robertson

glutes - search get your butt in gear by eric cressey

low back - deadlifts

SarahPT · Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 603 Location: Western Maine

Also make sure that when you do any overhead presses that you are keeping your back straight. It can be easy to arch it and put the spine in an unhealthy position.

Dalton85 · Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 242

is it more beneficial to hold them (db's or machine) with the knuckles facing inwards towards each other or fowards (away from me)

swanso5 · Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:18 am Post subject:

palms facing each other is best

Dalton85 · Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 242

does that always work the inner part of the chest?

swanso5 · Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject:

nothing works one part of the chest, they all work the chest entirely

Dalton85 · Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 242

so how come when i see people who have JUST bench pressed for a year or two they have weird chests like ALOt of muscle near the armpit and nothing on the inside or top or "underneath"

swanso5 · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject:

you can "emphasise" cettain parts over another but if your bench numvers are increasing then why bother? also genetics, insertions and movement patterns will determine where more muscle will grow

Dalton85 · Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 242

so genetics really plays that much of a role in exercising?
i thought genetics was more personality

swanso5 · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:05 am Post subject:

not in actual exercising as nayone can do it it's matter of how hard you're willing to go with it but some can be genetically gifted such as bodybuilders witj short insertion points, volleyballers with high calf insertions etc

these can be overcome but requires more work obviously