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squats - smith machine or barbell

 
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TONYMACK




Joined: 17 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: squats - smith machine or barbell Reply with quote

please could you tell me whether performing squats on the smith machine is much less beneficial than doing them with a barbell. I ask because I feel safer performing them on the smith machine (a question of balance)
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Boss Man




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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smith Squats, can use more weight, and are safer if you train alone.

However Freebar Squats have a slightly better range of motion as the Bar is not fixed.

I personally don't think Smith Squats, are too bad, and if you're worried about safety, do those instead.
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swanso5




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Location: melbourne, australia

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

free bar squats is a million times better

even when training alone you can work up to using 95% of your max

free bar are also a million times safer...low back, knee and hips hate the range of motion that smith machine squats provide and will sooner rather than later, cause an injury or muscle imbalance somewhere...you also don't get the core workout either that you get with free bar squats

if worried about the wt then go light at first and also use lunge variations which will also have you working hard but with a much less wt
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adrianb




Joined: 29 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're going for looks then it doesn't matter but the smith machine is genrally better for looks since you can squat more weight and since it doesnt involve stabilizers

If you're an athlete - do regualr squats as this training is more natural plus it also works your supporting stabilizer muscles
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swanso5




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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't think you can squat more on a smith machine than free bar, i know i couldn't do it...initially you could but if you have crack and be consistent you'll quickly out grow it
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miller1089




Joined: 08 Feb 2008
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Location: michigan

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i actually do both, barbell followed by s/m squats. the prefatigue factor helps make you work harder. another thing with a smith machine is that you can stand far out infront of the bar and really nail your quads
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