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Fit_Friend · Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 10

They all seem about the same to me with minor variations. Has anyone used any of these?

http://obsessionfitness.com/category/equipment-type/abdominal-trainers/

I believe they can work but wonder how much better than old-fashioned crunches.

Christopheel · Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 931

swanso5 · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:30 am Post subject:

they're equalled number 1 for low back issues....

vamp · Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 640

Okay, never had a 6-pack, trying for them now!

Try these:

All these reps, the slower the better: unweighted exercises max 30 reps per set, very slow, add weight later. Weighted exercises max. 20 reps, very slow. Minimum reps for all is 10.

Aim for 6 sets on the abs per workout and about 24-30 sets per week.

Hip Raises
Leg Raises
Dumbbell or Barbell Sidebends
Cable Crunches
Roman Chair

swanso5 · Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:53 am Post subject:

why so many sets?

vamp · Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 640

Sets are a guideline, more sets to exhaustion builds smaller, denser, and tighter muscle like a marathon runner's leg muscles. Small fibers around small and so on. Very dense and strong, thus a strong core. This is what I have found, although others may find results differ for them.

swanso5 · Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:56 am Post subject:

what marathon runner's legs are you lookin at?

vamp · Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 640

I will not argue, obviously you are right and I am wrong, even my oppinions. Please take care, all advice is yours from now on, I will refrain.

Pleasent day to you

swanso5 · Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:03 am Post subject:

no need to be like that...if you're gonna say something but can't substantiate it then maybe you shouldn't be giving that advice out

vamp · Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 640

as I said, the advice columns are yours, my oppinions and my personal findings are wrong in your oppinion. I'll keep mine to myself. Best of luck everyone and to you as well.
Cheers and happy fitness to all!

swanso5 · Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject:

they're not mine by any stretch...all i do is try to give people some education on the subject so they can reach their goals...

katiesuarez · Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Posts: 334

Vamp, please keep posting. It is wonderful to have you here and all advice is welcome. It is normal to sometimes question the opinions of others for various reasons. Maybe someone disagrees or it could be he/she wants you to elaborate to better understand your point. Learning is a lifelong process.

Christopheel · Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 931

Yes true, Vamp seems to have a solid knowledge in weightlifting, I'm happy to have another one around, but It's true that

High intensity exercises over lower intensity for muscles/strength gains

and

Who cares about training abs really ? Throw them in your workout paired with another exercise (so that you don't waste time) and your gonna be fine.

vamp · Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 640

Sorry, tired and edgy last night and got rubbed the wrong way. I've calm down some.

Cheers all.