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Boss Man · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject:

I'd stick with the Vitamins for now. At least 1/2 a day.

You need ot make sure things like Bone health are good enough, no to cause a training related problem. You can't just bump up cals a bit for a while, and expect the body to just become the way you want it, so any extra help you can get from a Multi-vit at leats for the next 3-4 weeks, would be of benefit I feel.

You might get all you need from food, but many micronutrients, have good upper limits. So for things like Iron for example, it's around 40mg's, whereas RDA's are 14-15 women, and 7-8 men, so even if you used a Multivit and took a Micro like Iron up to around 20mg's you shouldn't have an issue with possible Zinc competion or anything else potentially related to high iron.

swanso5 · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:23 am Post subject:

3 sets of scales...insane

you said you just gave up supp's which was hard so now give up the scales...just when i think you're on your way you make another excuse...you can do whatever it is you want to do

vamp · Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 702

"WHO KNOWS, it's irrelevant!
Your body will fluctuate in weight on a daily basis, and you have no way of knowing your "fat count" from day to day. Measure with the mirror and a measuring tape. You are going to gain some weight, some of it fat, just accept it and move on. It's part of the process and you can use a little fat anyways, right!"

So right Diana!!!

FORGET THE SCALES - They are a bad habit just like smoking, they are bad for you mentally and really tell you nothing except how much static force your body exerts upon a 1 foot square surface. Do you truely think you stand still long enough for this to matter? Will you wear away a floor tile by standing on it because your force is too much preasure for it?

Use body fat % or tape measure or mirror, chuck the scale!!!!

carefree · Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 32

Friday weekly weigh day

2lbs up and fat % up

DianaB · Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 687

katiesuarez · Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Posts: 343

Diana, you are so blunt, but I love your posts! Very straightforward and helpful. You give great advice. Very Happy

carefree · Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 32

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carefree · Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 32

outofshape · Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Posts: 64

oh no not laxatives
they do more harm then good

drop them asap dude

Boss Man · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject:

It may be laxatives you're on, but even if they're to help you go, you can still have been weighing yourself before a toilet trip possibly.

2lbs increase could be from undigested food, and stored excreta and Urine.

swanso5 · Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:02 am Post subject:

you just need to rise above it, there's no other way buddy....druggies come off drugs, you can come off this

vamp · Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 702

Just like I tell my 4 year old daughter, can't is a bad word. Every time you use it you fail. It isn't even a word in some cultures and they seem to acheive things so much easier than "us".

Every time you use can't you re-inforce your behaviour, it is the ultimate excuse for those unwilling to try and acheive things worth acheiving because of the effort involved.

Stop being so bloody negative, you are perpetuating the problem through it, your problem isn't an eating disorder its a symptom you have created. And yes, I have taken some phsycology!

cheers
Sorry its so blunt but it seems to upset you enough with bluntness so that you actually pay attention and think about things being said.

katiesuarez · Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Posts: 343

Laxatives can be addictive and very harmful to your body. Perhaps you need to change your diet a bit. Are you getting enough fruits, veggies and whole grains? You should also drink at least a gallon of clean water each day.

Lastly, it sounds like to need professional help to conquer your demons. There is only so much the people here can do for you. We can give you all the right advice and lay it all out plain and simple, but you have to be willing to follow it. And yes, I do know what I’m talking about. I had an eating disorder myself. It completely dictated my life and I felt horrible all the time. People around me did not understand what I was going through. This is why you need to go to someone who is qualified to handle this. Your problem runs much deeper than a bad diet. You need to fix what’s going on upstairs before you do anything else.

vamp · Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 702

Thank you Katie for handling that tactfully, obviously I failed to do so, sorry all.

vamp · Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 702

"As a guide to minimum calorie intake, the American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM) recommends that calorie levels never drop below 1200 calories per day for women or 1800 calories per day for men. Even these calorie levels are quite low."

Found this quote, and note the last sentence!

Any Questions? Good, now up your calories, eat the right foods and excercise, nobody has a perfect body and there is never a perfect body weight for a specific height. Doctors recommend you never weigh yourself more than once a week and some say longer. Every day and several times a day is wrong.

cheers