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Chief714

Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject: Chest Workouts |
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I have a question.
Is it true that Dips are a good outer chest workout?
That's what I've been told, but I question it. How is it a full chest work out? Aren't dips more of a Tricep work out?
I can see how dips can put a little work on the pecs, but I don't see how someone should choose dips over lets say flat or incline flies? Or even wide grip bench pressing or push ups to widen their chest.
Any insight would be great. Thanks |
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J_Flow

Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 27
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Dips are good, but bench press, and flyes are better. It really depends on the person. Every exercise works out different for each person. |
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swanso5

Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 6798
Location: melbourne, australia
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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nothing works one part of a muscle...the heavier the wt the more muscle you'll stimulate simple as that...in that regard flies are terrible, wide grip will kill your shoulders and so will dips if you don't have the "correct" shoulder make up
heavy bench presses with elbows in and off you go |
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darius3000

Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 42
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:24 am Post subject: |
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| swanso5 wrote: | nothing works one part of a muscle...the heavier the wt the more muscle you'll stimulate simple as that
heavy bench presses with elbows in and off you go |
Then those who have great chest development simply have great genetics, rely on compound chest movements, heavy wt., and don't really do a chest workout or workouts with any specific strategy?
I do dips, pushups and different types of bench presses and I try to work my chest 2x/wk. How many sets/reps should I do? |
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swanso5

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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:51 am Post subject: |
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initially bench presses are the way to go to stimulate as much muscle as possible in the shortest time possible basically...once you have appreciable mass there already then you can experiment with "isolating' area's if you want but from a strength point of view, this does nothing...the wt is the main factor for strength and really who looks at someone and says 'gee, his outer pecs could do with some work"
what to do? depends on goals, training experience, program you're following etc |
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darius3000

Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 42
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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initially bench presses are the way to go to stimulate as much muscle as possible in the shortest time possible basically...once you have appreciable mass there already then you can experiment with "isolating' area's if you want but from a strength point of view, this does nothing...the wt is the main factor for strength and really who looks at someone and says 'gee, his outer pecs could do with some work"
Then from an appearance POV, isolating the different areas of the chest would be ok and would actually garner some results?
I've noticed that my left pec isn't as big as my right. It's pretty disappointing. Anything I can do about that? |
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swanso5

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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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POV? what??
do db work only to even up...it's probably neural (nervous system doesn't fire as well on that side...possible postural/chiro type problem) |
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darius3000

Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 42
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:15 pm Post subject: Pec unevenness |
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| swanso5 wrote: | POV? what??
do db work only to even up...it's probably neural (nervous system doesn't fire as well on that side...possible postural/chiro type problem) |
POV=point of view
I have a feeling it is postural/chiro. Oh well. |
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