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[AllanG]

Hi,

I have been working out now for about 8 months and I am at a point where I am not seeing any new results. I weight train on the mon,wed,fri and run, sprint on Tue, thur.

I was asking some advice and how to get abck on track to seeing results and someone said that tribulus is "the wonder supplement". I know people get very attached to "their" supplement of choice so I thought I would ask if anyone else has tried it.

I also heard that it can cause acne breakouts and other side effects...

Cheers

AllanG

[swanso5]

at 8mths you're still a beginner so no need for supp's yet...i've been training for yrs and still don't find the neede them...post program/earing for a closer inspection be as detailed as you can

[Boss Man]

Tribulus is neither here nor there, it's just a Japanese weed.

Frankly I wouldn't waste your time. Most BB are perfectly capable of getting 200lb natural mass, (if they want it), with nothing more than hard work, a sold diet and a protein powder.

Things like Tribulus are average, and a bit gimmicky.

[AllanG]

thanks for the advice, I have decided against the supplements. At the moment this is what i am doing. about an hour to an hour and a half a night.

mon - biceps and triceps and forerms
(alt hammer curls, alt incline BD curls, EZ bar curls. bench dips, lying DB extensions, over head cable extensions. wrist curls)

tue - Back and 4k run with two or three sprints
(Raptor machine, seated cable pulls, Lat push down, lat pull down.)

wed - front, middle and rear deltoids
front deltoid plate raises, deltoid laterals, over head DB presses, bent over delt raises, cable cross overs, and upright row)

thur- Legs and 4k and sprints
(DB lunges, Standing leg curls, one legged cable kickbacks, machine leg presses, dumbell calf raises)

Fri - upper, lower and middle chest.
(flat, incline and decline presses + flyes, mach flyes, dips.

after all this i seem to be losing weight, not gaining any.

thanks again for the help and advice.

allan

[swanso5]

your not gaining wt because your using some of the worse exercises invented

good - seated rows, pulldowns (chin ups are 9000 x better), shoulder press, lunges, bench press, dips (for some people)...7 in total

bad - hammer curls, incline curls, ez curls, bench dips, lying ext, overhead ext, wrist curls, pushdowns, front raise, laterals, bent raise, cross over, upright row, leg curls, leg kickbacks, leg press, calf raises, flies, mach flies...19 in total

from this only 25% of your exercises are any good which explains your lack of gains

do the waterbury method by chad waterbury

[Boss Man]

I'd agree about Wrist Curls. The other stuff I'm 50 / 50 on. To me things like E-Z bar etc etc, may have some merit, and I'm not going to say anything for or agaisnt them.

I will agree though, Wrist Curls are pants.

Also lack of gains may not necessarily be training related, it could be diet related.

[AllanG]

Thanks for that info on Waterbury. I am going to try that method for a while. I think something new is just what the doctor ordered anyway, might break the rut.

my diet is:

8am - whole wheat cereal
10am - fruit and cottage cheese
12pm - beans and veg
2pm - can of tuna and fruit
5pm - chicken or red meat, veg and potatoes
8pm - yogurt

Cheers

AllanG

[swanso5]

- add fruit to breakfast
- add a better prtoein source to meal 2 (meat if you can, not a great fan of CC), and veg/salad if it's too small of a meal for you
- add solid protein as well to lunch and add fruit
- swap fruit for veg/salad for 2pm meal
- solid protein and veg/salad for last meal, not yoghurt

after you train have a protein shale and a sugary cerial OR pasta OR rice OR bread

healthy fats such as nuts, avocado, peanut butter ect can be added in too