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smidey · Joined: 28 Jul 2008 Posts: 6

I tried looking for my answer before posting this, but couldn't find EXACTLY what I was looking for so maybe you can help.

I'm right now at 150lbs, looking to bulk up to 170 with tremendous gains in muscle mass overall. I put myself on the Waterbury method and am working on it 3-4 days a week, depending on the week.

I started taking Whey Protein shakes before breakfast, been eating HUGE breakfasts, been taking things like Nutrament and bars to supplement additionally. I KNOW I am doing things wrong and want to correct them.

Here's my schedule of eating today:
7:15AM - Whey Protein
9AM - 5 eggs ( 3 whites included) , 2 cups of milk, one glass of Orange Juice.
12PM - Nutrament Vanilla
3PM - Protein Bar, Peach
4:30 - One can tuna fish, one veal cutlet

It's about 6:30 now, and I still plan on eating some turkey sandwich, and an additional fruit and veggies.

I know I'm totally off here, so any pointers would help. Keep in mind that my goal is to be increasing body weight and mass so I need to be taking in as many cals and protein as possible. Right?

Any suggestions ? The more, the merrier!

vamp · Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 692

Could you tell us when you workout through the day in relation to these meals?

DianaB · Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 687

How long have you been following that program?
Age, height, would help too.
And some numbers, what are you lifting now on the majors?

smidey · Joined: 28 Jul 2008 Posts: 6

DianaB · Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 687

3 weeks, are you new at training or was this a program switch for you?
Either way, if you want bulk up, you need more food than that.
I'm not sure what Nutrament is, but I'm betting it's not real food.
I haven't looked at a Waterbury program in a long time, but it's probably an OK place to start if you are a 3 weeks into it beginner.
Personally, for gaining mass and strength, IMO stronglifts 5x5 or Rippetoe's Starting Strength (pretty much the same thing anyways) is the place to start.

vamp · Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 692

Yes Diana and if you feel compelled to create your own program keep the excercises compound movements like squats, bench press, pull ups, military presses, deadlifts and rows.

protein every meal and use the whey drink immediately after the workout. The rest should be solid forms of protein and real (cut the bars and stuff, get some chicken, lentils, lean beef, fish, etc. If you have wild game available to you even better ie. bear, venison, etc. because it is leaner meat.)

The more processed a food is the less nutritional value it has, so stick to the outside isle of the supermarket.

cheers

Ragnarxxx · Joined: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 8

Just a quick question in relation to the topic.

Should you take a protein shake before and after the lifting? or just after?

swanso5 · Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:13 am Post subject:

either or half pre/post