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HOUSTON TEXAN · Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 715

Since my gym doesn't have a rear delt machine could I get on a machine similar to a cable crossover thing face the machine and pull the cables across each other to go from a x to having your arms level with your shoulder movement?

Boss Man · Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject:

Wouldn't it be easier in that case to just do something like Bent over side Raises?

Or alternatively if possible, you could sit the opposite way round on a Pec Deck. Might depend on the design of the Pec Deck though.

Or you could possibly get away with Pull Ups. Opposite movement to Pull Downs, but you use Body weight, not a Machine with unnatural weight

That will have some effect on the Traps though, and be aware it can really give you some kick in the Biceps too. Need a wider grip then you would use for Chin-ups though, but you could do it, if the Crossover Machine haad some hand grips on the top.

swanso5 · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:11 am Post subject:

yeah scarecrows (what you described) are probably better anyway

cshapland · Joined: 23 Apr 2008 Posts: 48

is there a difference between pull ups and chin ups?

swanso5 · Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:23 am Post subject:

you'll be able to use more wt doing chin ups...a little more bicep use too...mechanically easier than pull ups but both are good

cshapland · Joined: 23 Apr 2008 Posts: 48

is the only difference the grip you use
pull up- palms facing you
chin- palms away and uses more lats?

swanso5 · Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:57 am Post subject:

chin ups are palms facing you

pull ups are palms facing away from you

pull ups use "more" lats

chin ups use "more" biceps

i would do both of them if i was you though

cshapland · Joined: 23 Apr 2008 Posts: 48

k thanks i just got confused between the two