Fat Around Belly Button Area?

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Re: Fat Around Belly Button Area?

Postby MartinBoy » Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:31 pm

cassiegose wrote:It really depends Martin. How many pounds are in 1 kg? I'm at work and don't reallly feel like figuring that one out.


1 kilogram = 2.20462262 pounds

Also was out tonight, got a dairy milk mcflurry, about 300 calories.
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Re: Fat Around Belly Button Area?

Postby MartinBoy » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:23 am

Day 131

Breakfast - shreaded wheat, day off today however think were having chicken portions for dinner so kinda high in protein, so may do some weights later.

Bit later had a slice of bread with peanut butter.

Lunch/Dinner - Roast potatoes, carrots, sweet corn and peas, gravy, and chicken drumsticks however they wernt massive pieces.

Stomach feels very sharp and stabbing feeling and i keep getting hungry.

I also still feel fat.

Went to do some weights however it was dark cold and wet but done a few military presses went to do shoulder press but just couldn't then went to do some curls but my forearms just couldn't hack it, i think it's fair to say i haven't got much stronger or look too much better for over 4 months work. Why can't i do nothing right?

6 30PM had a piece of a baguette with peanut butter and ham slices.
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Re: Fat Around Belly Button Area?

Postby MartinBoy » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:05 pm

Day 132

Breakfast - shreaded wheat.

Break time ham roll.

Lunch ham sandwiches.

Big Dinner - toad in the whole, with sausages, jacket potato and some veggies.

No cardio/weight training today as going to take it off and don't have much time, however i just ate a big dinner, and im hungry already, i must be ill, and making me having to eat again will end up getting even fatter right!?
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Re: Fat Around Belly Button Area?

Postby Boss Man » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:34 pm

Shouldn't feel hungry after that. You're probably not ill, but yes eating more calories so soon after, would promote an excess to Fat conversion, especially as you're not doing anything to burn them off really.

As for not having time to workout, make time. Seriously, whatever needs be, even if Cardio ends up as a 20 minute walk, better than nothing, or you go in the Gym, and do 1 set of everything, instead of 3, better that then nothing.

When you don't have plan A: plan B should be what you can feasibly do, which in most cases isn't nothing, unless you can't workout, because your whole day is taken up with something or things that are unavoidable.

Even if a 1hr 10 minute workout gap, is limited to 30 minutes, then fine, you've got 30 minutes, which is better than going, can't do anything today and skipping it.

Don't be afraid to make plan B something instead of nothing. You'll feel better for yourself, doing something worthwhile, with some sort of timeframe, when your usual requirements can't be met..

Heck even with 10 minutes to spare, just jog to the nearest street, go round the corner, round the next corner, then the next and home again. Might be able to get 3-4 whole circuits, depending on the length of the 4 street sections involved and if fitness will hold, in relation to decent speeds, otherwise at least maybe 2 circuits if you speed walk.

If your street is really long, just go up and down the street a few times.

Even then, you've done 10 minutes, maybe burned 40-60 calories approximately, so you haven't done nothing, where usual workouts can't be possible.

Most people could find at least a 10 minute slot, for something that simple, when plans go out of the window.

In those instances, take some initiative and suck it up. You CAN do that fella, you just need to believe you can.
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Re: Fat Around Belly Button Area?

Postby MartinBoy » Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:48 pm

Thanks, perhaps i will try even harder as i feel fat again and seems like ive got fatter, but i don't see how on earth i could of?

Day 132

Breakfast - shreaded wheat

Lunch paste sandwiches.

Peanut butter on a slice of bread

20mins cardio.

Dinner - Quiche with peppers, jacket potato and peas.
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Re: Fat Around Belly Button Area?

Postby MartinBoy » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:09 am

Day 133

Breakfast shreaded wheat

Lunch 2 slices toast with peanut butter 1 whole boiled egg, 3 whites.

Dinner - quiche, 4 meatballs, beans and jacket potato, can't get to weights yet again today :evil: Shed (room i do them in, is still unfinished and stuff like paint on floor and it is soaking wet outside. So i guess il have to do more pull ups/chin ups/push ups.

Think my pull ups may be getting better, doing with feet crossed now to make sure they don't swerve, maxed 6 twice :lol:
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Re: Fat Around Belly Button Area?

Postby MartinBoy » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:11 am

Day 134

Breakfast - wheatabix.

Lunch - slice of bread with peanut butter, can of meatballs in tomato sauce.

20 mins cardio.
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Re: Fat Around Belly Button Area?

Postby cassiegose » Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:10 pm

MartinBoy wrote:Day 133

Breakfast shreaded wheat

Lunch 2 slices toast with peanut butter 1 whole boiled egg, 3 whites.

Dinner - quiche, 4 meatballs, beans and jacket potato, can't get to weights yet again today :evil: Shed (room i do them in, is still unfinished and stuff like paint on floor and it is soaking wet outside. So i guess il have to do more pull ups/chin ups/push ups.

Think my pull ups may be getting better, doing with feet crossed now to make sure they don't swerve, maxed 6 twice :lol:


Great job on the pullups Martin! I'm so glad to hear they are getting easier! Awesome job! Way to stick with them!!

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Re: Fat Around Belly Button Area?

Postby MartinBoy » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:14 am

Thanks Cas,

Day 134

Breakfast, did a big bowl of porridge oats however it must of came out bad as it tasted bad so didn't eat it, instead had 2 slices of toast with peanut butter.

Lunch 4 egg whites.

5PM can of tuna

Dinner - 2 grilled burgers in a roll, little bit of cheese.

Can't do weights again today as the shed is still incomplete, not been a good week in terms of working out but once its finished il get back to it, can't do outside either because it has been raining all day, so been doing push ups pull ups chin ups.

Still got this horrible piece of belly fat that ive been trying to get rid of for over 4 months, i can see my 6 pack so if it was gone id be able 2 see it all the time.
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Re: Fat Around Belly Button Area?

Postby cassiegose » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:38 pm

As for the belly fat... Martin it took me 7 months to get my abs looking the way I wanted them. This was 7 months of HARDCORE dieting where I allowed myself maybe 7 cheat meals (thats 1 cheat meal per month). Other than those few cheat meals, I didn't have ANY candy, pastries, pizza, white bread (or any other kind of processed carbs for that matter), ice cream, burgers, fries... my diet was insanely clean EVERY DAY. In addition, Martin I worked out HARD every day. There were days where I didn't want to be in the gym.. there were days when i was so exhausted that i didn't even want to get out of bed. However I stuck with it and met my goals. I don't mean to sound harsh, but for the past 4 months I've looked at your diet pretty much every day and there have been few weeks where you have maintained a solid diet with enough protein and limited amounts of simple carbs and saturated fats. Today your diet doesn't look bad, however is the bread white bread or whole wheat? Were the burgers made with lean meat? Was the roll white or whole wheat? Was the cheese low fat? Where was the protein with breakfast? Were were the veggies with lunch and dinner? I know your resources are limited and I understand how frustrating that can be... I guess what I'm trying to explain here is that if you really want those *perfect* abs then you really are going to have to step the diet up. You simply are not going to get perfectly defined abs if you continue to eat white bread, sausages, mcflurrys, chinese food, bacon, halloween candy...

In answer to your question from November 6th, yes all that bread that you're eating really is "that bad". I'm assuming you're still eating white bread? This really isn't good for you at all. You'd be better off eating whole grain, and even then I would still recommend cutting back and adding things like fruits, veggies, brown rice, oatmeal, and other whole grains. Also, peanut butter, it is a healthy fat.. however there are days where you have bread with peanut butter for atleast 2 meals or you have bread with peanut butter for one and a sandwich for another. Natural peanut butter is healthy, however it is high in calories also. If you're having 4 pieces of bread per day and adding 2 tablespoons of pb to each slice you could easily be having 800 calories just in peanut butter. Not sure how muc youre having but just wanted to show how fast those calories could add up. You do need healthy fat in your diet, however you need a BALANCE of healthy fats from things like fish, nuts, flax, olive oil, coconut oil, avacado. Also, most peanut butter has stuff like hydroginated oils and other crap in it that you don't need.

I guess to sum it up here Martin... you have been on this diet for a long time. You've stuck with it and i know that you've made progress... more progress then you probably even realize. However, you're getting out of this what you're putting into it. If you stuck with the diet and workouts 100% then i think you would be 100% satisfied with your results. If you eat healthy 50% of the time and put 50% efforts into your workouts then you're going to get results of 50%... or get about half way to achieving your goals... or be able to see your abs some of the time when your goal is to see them all of the time. You're doing an awesome job and I'm SO incredibly proud of you. However, you tend to spend alot of time complaining about not making the progress that you want instead of finding ways to reach your goals. If you it bad enough you will find a way to reach your goals. End of story.
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Re: Fat Around Belly Button Area?

Postby MartinBoy » Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:25 am

I know Cassie, meals haven't been too great lately, what would you do if you was in my shoes as im kind of getting lost now.

I don't have much money, but perhaps i should buy a tub of protein powder to last me a month?

Day 135

Breakfast 3 wheatabix with milk. And a glass of semi skimmed milk

Lunch - 2 slices toast with peanut butter and 4 eggs, however didnt' come out well so i was basically drinking them :lol:

Few questions, why is white bread bad for you? It has carbs and some protein in it, about junk food, not like i eat it often or only if i have to but why is it so bad, say you had a biscuit which was 130 calories, sure it has a bit more fat or sugar in it, but is it really that bad?

Lastly and most importantly, what am i doing wrong, what can you recommend, is there any food i could buy which isn't too expensive and in bulk sort of thing, any advice on what you would do if you was in my shoes.

Thank you.

Dinner - mash and mince, vegetables - kidney beans, peas, onions, peppers etc,
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Re: Fat Around Belly Button Area?

Postby Lesplease » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:21 am

Lesplease wrote:Carbohydrates are chains of the sugars glucose galactose and fructose. They all have the formula C6H12O6. The only difference is the arrangement of the atoms. Glucose and galactose have 6 C rings, fructose has a 5 C ring.

Simple sugars are one or two of these hooked together to form either lactose (glucose + galactose) maltose (glucose + glucose) or sucrose (glucose + fructose). Glucose is immediately ready to use by your body. Fructose and galactose are transported from the small intestine to the liver for rearrangement into a glucose molecule, which can then be used by the body.

Starches are complex chains of glucose. Much the way animals store glucose in the form of glycogen, plants store it as starches. Once starches are eaten, they can then be broken down into glucose. Breaking 1 bond between 2 sugars is quick and easy. Glucose is released quickly into the bloodstream, followed by an insulin spike. Your sugar levels drop quickly, known as a "crash". Starches, being long chains, take longer to digest. The 75 glucoses in a starch takes longer to release into the blood than 75 glucoses alone, because the bonds must all be broken. Think of it as "time release".

Fiber is the material that makes up the cell walls of plants. (Animals do not have cell walls). It, like starch, is a large complex arrangement of glucose. However, unlike starch, we are unable to digest it, due to the arrangement of the glucose molecules. This is what gives your poo bulk. I know it sounds gross, but it keeps you full (since you can't digest it) and is very good for your intestinal health. Without it you can develop strain in your poo tract (constipation) which can result in diverticulosis, which are little sacs of thinned out intestine. These can easily fill will waste and become infected. It is incredibly painful and can result in hospitalization and antibiotics and/or surgery. Fiber, because it is not used by the body or broken down in any way, does not result in an insulin spike/crash.
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Re: Fat Around Belly Button Area?

Postby cassiegose » Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:40 pm

If I were in your shoes I would be making the best of the situation. I would definitely have protein powder on hand at all times and would also be using things like eggs, lunch meat, chicken breast, tuna, and low fat dairy to get in enough proteinj. If i were in your shoes and I REALLY seriously wanted to meet my goals i would be keeping track of calories, carbs, protein, and fat to make sure I was hitting my nutrient goals everyday.

One thing I notice with you Martin is that often you'll have something that is unhealthy then make an excuse for it... like saying "well i don't eat this every day or very often" or "my parents fixed it for dinner so i ate it". Eating unhealthy foods adds up. Even if you don't eat a certain food often if you eat different kinds of unhealthy food regularly it does add up over time.

I'm pretty sure we've already explained why white bread isn't the best for you. It is highly processed, has little fiber, and you really do eat a lot of it. It would be one thing if you were having one slice per day, but there are many days where you have 3 or 4 or more slices. Junk food-no you really don't eat it often compared to the average 17 year old male. However if you really do want washboard abs you will have to cut back on things like halloween candy, cakes, cookies, fast food, and high fat meat and dairy products. You're diet really is quite clean Martin, however if you want a solid 6 pack its going to have to be close to perfect.

I don't want you to think that i'm telling you that you aren't doing a good job Martin. You're doing absolutely awesome and i'm very VERY proud of you. I guess we're kind of coming to a point in the training and diet where if you want to take your body to the next level you'll have to take your training and diet to the next level to achieve your goals.
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Re: Fat Around Belly Button Area?

Postby MartinBoy » Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:08 am

Yes that's fair enough Cassie, but is there any food example chicken breast that i can buy in bulk which isn't too expensive as i don't have much money and any i have is going towards driving. I don't want to miss out on achieving these goals due to my income? :(

Day 136

Breakfast 3 wheatabix with milk, should really try and get some protein powder bought soon.

Lunch, can of meaballs slice of toast with peanut butter.

Dinner - oven baked chips, peas a beef and onion pie but it was 59% saturated fat so didn't eat the pastry and only ate a very small piece of the pie.

Glass of semi skimmed milk after.

Is building some muscle expensive, in terms of the food and weights etc, am i right to be doing it at my age, i keep on at my mum to buy the foods i need when shopping, so say she did agree what foods would i need for my diet, also like i asked before is there a way i could possibly buy some of these foods myself, or is it costly>?

I know i haven't eaten partically well for say a week or so however i haven't eaten unhealthy, will i lose my progress.

Also got a ab ball, not sure if il get much use out of it, but got it for free anyway.
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Re: Fat Around Belly Button Area?

Postby MartinBoy » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:59 am

Day 137

Breakfast 3 wheatabix with milk.

Breaktime bought a yazoo banana milkshake, low in fat, less than 5% added sugars, about 15g protein, 320 calories, about 9g something carbs per 100ml, was 475ml and they were sugars, but like it said less than 5% added sugar, so perhaps wasn't too bad.

Lunch, paste and pork with egg luncheon meat sandwiches.

Did some weights, still not finished shed but good news is should be finished soon so will be able to do with no problem hopefully and maybe i don't need any more weights until i can basically master the ones i have now? Im noticing myself get a bit stronger, i.e more pull ups, military presses etc. I did about 4 sets of military presses reps of about 6. 2 Sets of rows about 6 reps. Tried doing curls but only managed about a set with just 3 reps. 2 sets of deadlifts reps of 10.

Weight 31.6kg
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