Ironwill's workout log

[Boss Man]

Phenylalanine can also exert effects on Serotonin releases. As stated it is an essdential Amino Acid. It is not an Appetite suppressant. Appetite suppressants are just plain crap simple as.

[ironwill]

Les--I did a little research when you asked about it, and didn't find what I expected.

Boss--Wait til I tell Barbie, every time I take something that has it, she's like "oh no, thats one of the Fen-phen's, thats bad, thats bad" I also researched the Fen-phen craze, and I believe it's two totally different drugs (ingredients) from Phenylanine.

Thanks for the education.......

On a side note--a guy at work told me the other day that Splenda was as bad for you as smoking cigarettes. I don't typically use it, but that day I used a packet of it, and he had a fit.

[Boss Man]

If you're talking about Phentermine, then it's a prescription weight loss product of some kind, so I believe. Certainly nothing like Phenylalanine.

I am pretty much 99.99% certain, there is no such thing as an "essential" weight loss drug

[ironwill]

Fen-phen was an anti-obesity medication (an anorectic) which consisted of two drugs: fenfluramine and phentermine.

Weight loss pills drive me batty. Barbie has bought about every one in the book. We have a bag with about 10 bottles with only a few gone out of each.

[ironwill]

Gotchya....

[feelin-great]

Confused yet, Will? I know I am! How can anyone keep all this stuff straight

[ironwill]

.......I think I got it, just had misconceptions about it, or maybe just bad info, probably due to the beginning of the name being phen.

[Boss Man]

All the pills in your house for weight loss, just start a bonfire and destroy them if that's permissble by law, or find a way to get them recycled or incinerated, either by consulting a medic or a pharmacist, but don't put them down your sink or toilet, as you will pollute the local water course.

There is already evidence in middle and southern America, of people doing things like this with meds and it's affecting children, the eldery and other people, due to traces of things like, anti-depressants, thyroid meds etc etc, so getting rid of medicines or chemical and herbal supplements in a safe way, is a must.

[ironwill]

I will have to make them disappear. Like to have the $$ that was spent on them.......

[Boss Man]

Unfortunately, I don't think there is a buyback option on unused meds

Nor is there a part exchange one either. Excuse me sir, but I don't need these 15 unused Hoodia pills, would you be willing to swap them for some low dose Vitamin C?

I'm sorry my friend, but those are vitually no good to me, but seeing as I'm in a generous move, I'll trade them for one Zinc Pill. Best I can do I'm afraid

[ironwill]

LOL.......would be nice. Trade them for some Glutamine perhaps, or Protein Powder...... Guess I'm afraid she'll refill that shelf with more. At least if she see's them all up there, she might realize they didn't get her what she wanted, and it's a waste of $$.

[Boss Man]

She won't buy more useless diet products if you persuade her it's a waste of time. There's only so many times someone can do that, before the message finally sinks in, that noboy is going to create some sort of B.S pill, or fad diet, that will yield amazing physical results.

There's a product out now in Britain, being advertised by some woman who's thin, claiming to have the best Legs of her life after 5 kids.

I forget the name, but all you do is stand on it and slide your Legs apart a bit, then slide them back. The claim is 60 seconds of that a few times a day, will give you Legs like hers.

It just won't, i seriously won't, especially when the product is being marketed without even having the slogan, "must be used as part of a healthy, calorie controlled diet". So it comes across as a magic cureall for Fat legs, presumably in the hope you will not notice her flat stomach and thin Arms, because you're two busy looking at her stick Legs move side to side a little bit, without any actually bending or flexing of any Leg muscles.

Frankly save the money and just do that movement, by standing on a couple of rubber bands and move each Leg alternatiely side to side, because that will create a better range of motion than she gets on her dumb Leg device. Around 35-45 degrees, as opposed to her scenario where it's both Legs together at about 7.5 degrees range of motion per leg, or some other inneffective, pissy angle .

[ironwill]

I guess people must fall for it over, and over, as they keep making those bizarre contraptions. If they weren't selling them, the would stop marketing them. I find it sad, that people do hope, and I suppose believe there is some magic pill, or some magic piece of equipment that will give them their "dream" body. It's as you say proper exercise, and proper diet. The old adage "you are what you eat" seems very true. My 12 year old said the other day "hey Dad I'm going to do sit-ups every night so I can have 6-pack abs like you. I asked him if he'd ever seen me do sit ups/ crunches etc. He said no. I was like we all have a six pack under the fat, so if you want to see it, you need to clean up your diet some to lower your bf. (Not that I think its very important, especially at 12) You would think as the generations keep coming, we would learn from our mistakes, and educate the young on what we have learned.

[ironwill]

I suppose all the weight-loss "fad" diets, gimmicks, and equipment is a mega-$$ business. Keep people fooled, they'll keep buying. For sure, there's all types of info, good and bad, on the internet.

[Boss Man]

Hypothetical example.

A marketing guru goes to Egypt. He has a novelty shaped glass bottles full of sand. He has a stand, a big cardbaord cutout of the bottle, a computer screen with a rotating bottle on it and two leggy blondes handing out flyers for bottled sand.

It costs thousands of dollars to do and he sells 1 measly bottle.

Fact is it hasn't made money, but it would mean the individual had proved, you could sell sand to people in a country where there's tonnes of the stuff for free.

The real truth, not hypothetical, is that B.S. makes money. B.S. sells. Honesty sells, but B.S. is the adrenaline rush for some. The lying, cheating, faking and snidey business techniques that make dirty money in effect. To some people, scruples, morals and ethics mean jack and for most of the B.S. merchants, always will do.

If one company didn't make some dumbass weight loss product, another would, whether it's pills or some stupid plastic or metal contraption, because these people, some of which may not be B.S. merchants, just deluded fools, will do this, because they see a money making opportunity, whether the product is the result of a B.S. merchant, or a deluded fool, convinced their crappy product has real, tangible benefits.