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Re: Supplements - How To Use

Postby eran112003 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:21 pm

and also you should reduce your intensity. just do 3 set and 5 exercises each day heavier but less rep. and work only for one muscle group each day. dont pass leg squat. and calves
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Re: Supplements - How To Use

Postby Boss Man » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:02 pm

I can only partially agree. Honestly no disrespetc intended :).

Whilst splits have long been proven to work. Most natural lifters at the bigger end of the scale, around 190-200lbs+, could maybe get away with 12 sets on big muscle groups, particularly Chest, but you implying 3 sets of 5 exercises, or basically 15 sets per muscle, is almost certainly into pro-hormone country, if not Steroid use.

Most seasoned people with a natural approach to weightlifting, attempting 15 sets on a muscle group, would seriously have issues doing it, and maintaining intensity per workout.

Even if they could continue that long in a workout, the final few sets, would probably be completed with about 50-60%, rep numbers of the earlier ones, possibly less and potentially induce overtraining and possible issues with fatigue, immune reductions, sleep problems and inadequate recovery, causing very bad dropping off of performance levels, within as little as a month.

You're also looking at possible problems with CNS and PNS, when you're potentially over-stimulating the Motor Cortex and particularly areas like the Thalamus, that help govern motory and sensory function.

As I say, no disrespect intended, as it's good to have you on board :).
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Re: Supplements - How To Use

Postby makhou » Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:00 pm

eran112003 wrote:i agree in terms of that protein is protein. but we dont want bulk. so my opinion is optimum whey protein powder. L-carnitine and multivitamin is enough. as long as you get sufficient carb and protein by meal.

Protein is not protein!! For one the amino acid content is the same. Protein from animal sources & protein from vegetable source don't all the have the same amino acids. Same in the industrialized version, whey protein blend( concentrate & isolate) are an inferior quality than the crossflow microfiltered as the latter is pure protein with nearly zero lactose & digest much easierly
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Re: Supplements - How To Use

Postby Boss Man » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:47 pm

Lactose is a double edged sword for Protein powders.

On the one hand, the Sugars would assist with Insulin spiking, thus assisting with Protein synthesis into muscles.

On the other hand, it would require Lactase to break it down, increasing Digestive Enzyme production and possibly slowing down the digestion rate, but owing to the effects on Insulin, possibly a good thing, when the nutrition is ready for synthesising.

Though potentially giving you no real advnatage over not having it at all. Plus the inceased enzymatic production, would increase Metabolic and Hypothalamic responses, working the Endocrine system harder.

Whether this would induce more GH production, owing to the Fact the Pituitary also governs Thyroid activity, to some extent, I could not say.
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