My Diet. How many calories do i really need

[carefree]

W.

How about this: just don't weigh yourself, period.

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Hi Diana. For someone like me that just simply can not happen, my day really dose depend on what those scales say, i know its pathetic but thats just the way it is. I even have three sets of scales to make sure things are working ok.

[carefree]

Well the last two days have been great, i have stopped the 100 calorie increase a week and just gone up to 1800 on none workout days and 2000 on workout days. Its been working well, i done one of the best weight training days for ages today, i really did seem to have extra strength. Tomorrow is a cardio day, i hope i can give that a go and not feel weak or sluggish. If i can keep this up without the fat count going up i could be on the right road. I just hope i can continue to eat the 2000 calories a day.

Today is the first day in months that i have not popped any supplement or vitamin tablets. Im thinking if i can get all that i need from the food i eat i wont need any.
Stay lucky

[Boss Man]

I'd stick with the Vitamins for now. At least 1/2 a day.

You need ot make sure things like Bone health are good enough, no to cause a training related problem. You can't just bump up cals a bit for a while, and expect the body to just become the way you want it, so any extra help you can get from a Multi-vit at leats for the next 3-4 weeks, would be of benefit I feel.

You might get all you need from food, but many micronutrients, have good upper limits. So for things like Iron for example, it's around 40mg's, whereas RDA's are 14-15 women, and 7-8 men, so even if you used a Multivit and took a Micro like Iron up to around 20mg's you shouldn't have an issue with possible Zinc competion or anything else potentially related to high iron.

[swanso5]

3 sets of scales...insane

you said you just gave up supp's which was hard so now give up the scales...just when i think you're on your way you make another excuse...you can do whatever it is you want to do

[vamp]

"WHO KNOWS, it's irrelevant!
Your body will fluctuate in weight on a daily basis, and you have no way of knowing your "fat count" from day to day. Measure with the mirror and a measuring tape. You are going to gain some weight, some of it fat, just accept it and move on. It's part of the process and you can use a little fat anyways, right!"

So right Diana!!!

FORGET THE SCALES - They are a bad habit just like smoking, they are bad for you mentally and really tell you nothing except how much static force your body exerts upon a 1 foot square surface. Do you truely think you stand still long enough for this to matter? Will you wear away a floor tile by standing on it because your force is too much preasure for it?

Use body fat % or tape measure or mirror, chuck the scale!!!!

[carefree]

Friday weekly weigh day

2lbs up and fat % up

[DianaB]

Friday weekly weigh day

2lbs up and fat % up

You do now that unless you are doing hydrostatic BF measurements, there is no way you can be certain that your fat % is up. Those tanita scales are not accurate, nor are the hand help BF measurement scales. Hell, calipers are not even accurate most of the time and are dependent upon the expertise of the person measuring.

2lbs can be due to you needing to take a big crap.

Keep eating and stop weighing yourself and don't tell me the "people like you" can't do that. Your just like any one else on this planet, you have the ability to choose.

[carefree]

Friday weekly weigh day

2lbs up and fat % up

2lbs can be due to you needing to take a big crap.
quote]

No it cant be, cos i took some laxatives on the Thursday to help me.

[carefree]

Keep eating and stop weighing yourself and don't tell me the "people like you" can't do that. Your just like any one else on this planet, you have the ability to choose.

Maybe you have never came into someone with a food problem thing, but please believe me when i say i cant do that, it really means i cant. I can cope with the shit (voice) in my head that tells me not to eat but its really hard to do when you put weight on. In fact its near on imposable unless you take drugs or something and i dont do drugs. I dont even drink alcohol any more cos of the calories in it.

I have been having the six meals a day now for a few days but since friday i have found it harder to have the last meal. I have been having six 300 calorie meals, 1800 a day and on gym days an extra protein shake. Today will only be 1600, i just cant do any more today, going to bed now, too knackered.

[outofshape]

oh no not laxatives
they do more harm then good

drop them asap dude

[Boss Man]

It may be laxatives you're on, but even if they're to help you go, you can still have been weighing yourself before a toilet trip possibly.

2lbs increase could be from undigested food, and stored excreta and Urine.

[swanso5]

you just need to rise above it, there's no other way buddy....druggies come off drugs, you can come off this

[vamp]

Just like I tell my 4 year old daughter, can't is a bad word. Every time you use it you fail. It isn't even a word in some cultures and they seem to acheive things so much easier than "us".

Every time you use can't you re-inforce your behaviour, it is the ultimate excuse for those unwilling to try and acheive things worth acheiving because of the effort involved.

Stop being so bloody negative, you are perpetuating the problem through it, your problem isn't an eating disorder its a symptom you have created. And yes, I have taken some phsycology!

cheers
Sorry its so blunt but it seems to upset you enough with bluntness so that you actually pay attention and think about things being said.

[vamp]

Thank you Katie for handling that tactfully, obviously I failed to do so, sorry all.

[vamp]

"As a guide to minimum calorie intake, the American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM) recommends that calorie levels never drop below 1200 calories per day for women or 1800 calories per day for men. Even these calorie levels are quite low."

Found this quote, and note the last sentence!

Any Questions? Good, now up your calories, eat the right foods and excercise, nobody has a perfect body and there is never a perfect body weight for a specific height. Doctors recommend you never weigh yourself more than once a week and some say longer. Every day and several times a day is wrong.

cheers