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is walking good enough for obese?

Postby musculargirl » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:08 am

I know i've read on here that walking is adaptive. i walk on a path with some hills and because i'm overweight i have a heart rate around
125 - 133 with a max heart rate usually around 150 when i walk. do you think that is good enough for weight loss? I read that biking, swimming and walking are good for overweight people but????

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Re: is walking good enough for obese?

Postby musculargirl » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:09 am

I guess i'm wondering because i know it's not interval training.

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Re: is walking good enough for obese?

Postby Boss Man » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:34 pm

The undulations should fluctuate heart rate reducing the ability for the Cardio to become adoptive, so in itself it's a form of interval training.

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Re: is walking good enough for obese?

Postby musculargirl » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:51 pm

okay boss good to know. :)

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Re: is walking good enough for obese?

Postby musculargirl » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:08 pm

do you think i could swimming strokes not adaptive as well? Usually my heart rate is probably 125 when swimming max heart rate 145. I change between the freestyle and backstroke so my heart rate does slow down and speed up. Freestyle takes more work.

I guess the question leads to what kind of heart rate should you have for interval training?

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Re: is walking good enough for obese?

Postby Boss Man » Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:38 pm

Swimming can become adaptive in my opinion, but you can overcome this in one of three ways.

Change the speed and / or stroke every week.

Change the speed and / or stroke every session.

Change the speed and / or stroke every length / width.

Max heart rate is commonly determined by using 220-age.

In th case of intervals it depneds on the intensity as to what will happen.

For general exercise, target heart rate THR, is considered as MHR x 50% - 60%.

For fat burning, target heart rate THR, is considered as MHR x 60% - 70%.

For stamina, target heart rate THR, is considered as MHR x 70% - 80%.

For weight lifting, target heart rate THR, is considered as MHR x 80% - 90%.

For hardcore weight lifting, target heart rate THR, is considered as MHR x 90%+

These are at best a guide as heart rate can be affected by things like bloodflow, I.E. cholesterol deposits, Salt, Atheromas, Calcification, (arterial stiffening), Vasodilation of bloodvessels caused by Nitric Oxide, triggered by Arginine consumption and actual things that affect the heart like Caffeine, Valve problems, Ventricular stiffening etc, so these MHR ratings are a guide at best and many believe a Fat burning zone is pretty non-existent.

Training in a way that increases thermogenesis, could help to burn fat, so I wouldn't be too hung up about a heart rate when you train, unless it become erratic or feels more powerful than it normally would when you train, in which case seek a medical opinion.

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Re: is walking good enough for obese?

Postby musculargirl » Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:54 am

Boss Man wrote:I wouldn't be too hung up about a heart rate when you train


I know I guess by having my HR monitor now i'm thinking more about it. The only benefit to being heavy right now is i pretty much can do anything and I seem to be "in the zone." most of the time :lol: :lol:

Except my deep water swim class and aqua jogging. That was a pretty low heart rate when i was in the class. Still might take the class once a week just for fun though.

Thanks!

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Re: is walking good enough for obese?

Postby fatman2011 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:38 pm

I think for a meanwhile, It's okay because an obese can possibly have a weak body because possibly it's body is has been long rested.
just take a walk, maybe for 2 weeks, and when you think you have the habit, maybe you may take to the next level, try to have a light jog and walk. to burn calories out.. and of course you must have a good balanced diet, so that as you burn calories you don't fill it up again. eat protein rich foods.. to build up muscles.

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Re: is walking good enough for obese?

Postby PandorasVise » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:51 am

walking... I used to think that walking was good for weight loss when you are obese. I was one of those who walked with my friends around the ball field while the children played baseball. Every morning, a buddy would come by and we would walk for an hour after the kids went to school. Walking is well and good but that didnt' move the scale. And every one of those people I would walk with are still fat. Weight training helps more than walking. It helped me more than cardio. After getting stronger, I enjoyed cardio like activities more. Walking is good for the body especially the after dinner stroll, i think it helps with digestion. If someone is morbidly obese, walking as long as they can would be a good exercise, but just 'obese' I think needs a bit more than long walks

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Re: is walking good enough for obese?

Postby musculargirl » Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:06 am

Thanks patty and fatman I will keep that in mind. :)

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Re: is walking good enough for obese?

Postby Boss Man » Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:09 pm

Walking helps to lose weight upto a point, but without good caloric control and a goodly dose of weighs, its effectiveness alone cannot produce good weight loss results.

It is definitely worth it interms of getting started with Cardio, so you'rer ready to step up to stuff like intervals or jogging.

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Re: is walking good enough for obese?

Postby musculargirl » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:44 am

I think i will walk for a while longer and than increase it to run/walking. :)

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Re: is walking good enough for obese?

Postby lacespace » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:38 pm

There are so many benefits to walking no matter what your age or size is. When you become overweight it can be embarrassing to go to a gym or in public at all. This is a big contributing factor of why obese people don't start to fix their problem. Walking boosts feel good hormones and will be a natural encourager to walk again. You will need to walk for a few weeks to make it a habit. If you are able to get a treadmill then that sounds like the easiest way to get started to loose weight. I just bought one so I didn't have to walk in the cold. If you are interested here is a site that compares treadmills so you can find one that fits your price range http://www.treadmillcomparison.com. Good luck with your goal to start walking.

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Re: is walking good enough for obese?

Postby musculArgirl2 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:16 pm

lacespace wrote:There are so many benefits to walking no matter what your age or size is. When you become overweight it can be embarrassing to go to a gym or in public at all. This is a big contributing factor of why obese people don't start to fix their problem. Walking boosts feel good hormones and will be a natural encourager to walk again. You will need to walk for a few weeks to make it a habit. If you are able to get a treadmill then that sounds like the easiest way to get started to loose weight. I just bought one so I didn't have to walk in the cold. If you are interested here is a site that compares treadmills so you can find one that fits your price range http://www.treadmillcomparison.com. Good luck with your goal to start walking.


Thanks i already bought a treadmill actually just in time for winter. So i'm all set there. I've found a new love for winter. Incline walking on the treadmill!

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Re: is walking good enough for obese?

Postby musculArgirl2 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:20 pm

Boss Man wrote:Max heart rate is commonly determined by using 220-age.
In th case of intervals it depneds on the intensity as to what will happen.
For general exercise, target heart rate THR, is considered as MHR x 50% - 60%.
For fat burning, target heart rate THR, is considered as MHR x 60% - 70%.
For stamina, target heart rate THR, is considered as MHR x 70% - 80%.
For weight lifting, target heart rate THR, is considered as MHR x 80% - 90%.
For hardcore weight lifting, target heart rate THR, is considered as MHR x 90%+


So boss for walking on incline with my treadmill my hr rate was up there maxing at 180 and i don't know what the ave was the treadmill hr monitor didn't tell me. :evil: but i think it was higher than my walking this summer and maybe higher than when i run walk too. i'm thinking my ave was 160?? I will wear my monitor next time i go to see for sure. Is that good for weight loss? I"m 36.

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