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I had to google those drink sticks. I think they must be faddy thing we don't have over here.

Apparently there's a Hydroxycut one as well. To be honest these things are just taking the rise.

Some crappy gimmick designed to contaminate your water, with things like Caffeine, probably some sugar, herbs and other fairly pointless stuff, marketed as having tangible benefits for your wellness, when in fact they could very well have mild side effects, for a small percentage of consumers and for the the majority, little sensation of the purported effects claimed, I would suggest.

Another joke, money making product it would seem, but as ever, there is a market place for guilability and guilability sells and sells big, so it's no surprise moronic looking products like this are marketed.

Heck if you went to a shop that sells ice cubes and they had ice cubes with caffeine in them, I reckon there would be a good chance of those outselling regular, because people will buy into plausible gimmicks, especially if the cubes came with a hint of orange, lemon or lime, or some other fruity essence; I think that would boost desirability.

Now if the product was called something like Ice Infusions, with a tagline like, ice cubes, infused with the subtle essence of fruit, then hey presto, you've got something that reaches out to guillable people, who will see the point of paying another $5 a bag, for fruity ice cubes jacked with caffeine.

Anyone know a good magic bean shop, I think I've got the urge for something a little different for tomorrows lunch :wink:
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fitoverforty wrote: I may try it with the almond butter and use less almond milk. But it will be hard for me to give up all natural pb. That's one of those foods that I beg to differ with on paleo! I'm like..."come on....dont' take pb!!!"....I gave up cheese for pete's sake!!!! Let me have pb!! :lol: :lol:
Haha! I know what you mean. That's how I feel about dairy. I can understand giving up grains and legumes (peanuts, beans), even starchy vegetables like potatoes... but cream and milk are so precious to me! The Paleo Challenge at work is full-tilt, so I have to give up dairy this one time. It will be interesting to see how I feel without it, so we'll see what happens.

Keep conquering that daily craving for potato chips one day at a time, it all adds up and makes a huge difference. Great work, Lynne :D
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This is the main one I was hooked on:
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ingredients:Glucose, Taurine, Citric Acid, Sodium Citrate, Natural Flavor, Maltodextrin, Contains Less Than 2% of: Potassium Citrate, Calcium Phosphate, Magnesium Oxide, Caffeine, Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium, Niacinamide (Vitamin B3), Calcium Pantothenate (Vitamin B5), Gum Arabic, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, (Vitamin B6), Calcium Silicate, Biotin, Yellow 5, Artificial Color, Red 40, Cyanocobalamin (Vitamin B12). Allergy Warning: May Contain Traces of Milk, Almonds, Pecans, Walnuts, Wheat And Soy.

Egads! We as a nation are so bad about just putting "whatever" into our bodies....
I mean really...what is Pyridoxine Hydrochloride? Vitamin B6? And how is it exactly that they put this in a powder form? I can get enough of that naturally by eating Bell peppers, spinach, baked potatoes (skin included), green peas, yams, broccoli, asparagus and turnip greens OR meats like turkey, beef, chicken, tuna. OR Peanuts, sunflower seeds, cashews and hazelnuts. So many healthy choices!!
Calcium Pantothenate - Vitamin B5? Eat eggs, mushrooms, squash, broccoli, corn, sunflower seeds

I know I am getting on a rant here...I'm just mad at myself for "buying" into these quick and easy fake "energy" sticks. Never bothering to really read up on what I'm consuming.

I have been off of them for a while, then today I was at mom's house and didn't have lemon slices with me, long story short - I had a Crystal Lite lemonade drink stick in purse and so I got it out and poured it in water bottle. Man! It literally was burning throat. It was like I could taste every mineral, metal, additive chemical in it. It was not good. No more! I won't do it again. Can't believe I couldn't taste all that stuff before.

wish is that more people would learn to really think about what they are eating and how it is affecting their bodies...what exactly is in that package of noodles or instant microwavable oatmeal, or poptart, or honey bun, or drink stick, instant tea, prebattered frozen "chicken" sticks, frozen microwavable "lean" meals - the list goes on and on.

I hope that folks (myself included) can focus more on getting back to natural foods - fresh fruits, vegetable, lean meats, healthy nuts and seeds. It's not that complicated - but it seems like it is when you have so much of the other stuff constantly advertised to you as "healthy, quick, convenient" IT"S NOT!

Okay, I'm done...sorry....I hoping that by typing all of this it will help ME to stay away from it and make better choices. :D
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Interesting point on food labelling.

A ready meal supposedly serving 2, from a British supermarket.

Ham and Tomato with Roasted Mushrooms.

Sounds good and without food labelling an enticing prospect.

However from memory, it contained around 66% of RDA for saturated fats and 75% RDA for Salt intake and judging by the look of the box, I'd say some peoples idea of a serving would be the whole lot, not half.

People should think more but they won't. I see people wandering around with massive guts seemingly not caring one jot about how they are abusing themselves. Women who's guts are about 3-4 inches infront of their knees. Men with what look like waists of over 48" and they just don't care and they don't care how it will affect other people, if they get ill from their obesity or die prematurely.

It's the same thing with smoking and excessive drug and alcohol consumption. It's all me, me, me, me, me and don't tell me any diffferent and don't lecture me and I haven't got a problem and if smoking is bad for the environment, how will me stopping smoking help the environment?

Alternatively, what's it got to do with you if I use substances, I'm not harming anyone?

There's one born every minute, that just has to have that first try of something and then gets hooked, because they throw common sense out of the window, or listen to people who threw common sense out of the window before them and get swayed.

It won't stop people either. People have more health propaganda in their faces now and things like the internet to educate them, but there's an ever growing world populous, so for those people who try to quit a bad habit, or alternatively their bad habit quits them, (morbid way to put it I know), one day, there will be someone taking that first chance the same day, or tomorrow, who will get hooked.

The world is a fools paradise and the manufacturers know how to get a fools money. It's exactly the same with things like Fat burners, electronic abs belts, or in this case drink sticks, that allow you to administer the likes of Caffeine, Sugar and other pointless things into your bottled water.

Another standpoint, is the ramifications from abolition of such things. If people lobbied for drink stick abolition, or Fat burner abolition as examples, there might be tightening of regulations, or possibly not, but such things would never be banned, as there would be lost company profits to not glean tax from and possibly employees out of work, claiming monies to live, not paying them in taxes.

Possibly even some small companies going bust, leading to more people claiming monies to live, not paying taxes and also government gaining 0% tax from 0% operating revenues, so the will of the people versus the governement purse, would almost certainly lose out.

To some people, there is thinking about what you put in your mouth, I.E. do I want, a big Mac with fries, or a Quarter pounder with fries, or should I let kids eat KFC bargain bucket?

So you have every right to rant, but then it's the anti war song mentality. People like Black Sabbath, Creedence Clearwater Revival, James Brown, Jefferson Airplane, Grand Funk Railroad and 10 Years After, did such songs and not once did people like Johnson, Nixon or Ford, bow down to such common sense, laid down in musical form and put a halt to Vietnam.

It happened when it happened and most people will be whistling dixie, when it comes to wanting abolition of unneccesary products / gimmicks.

More propoganda and tightening of regulations is needed, but look at another example, with the deaths from Hydroxycut Hardcore. A chance for the FDA to lambast or scapegoat all such products, but no, they scapegoated that product and avoided a "tarring with the same brush" mentality, which would have been justified in that instance, but effectively fails to warn those, emotionally weak enough to be tempted, about other fat burners, thermogenic serums and appetite suppressants, so justifiable caveats on such products, failed to materialise like they should have done.

When significant risk to governement purse is at stake, don't expect any government to abolish stupid, or potentially dangerous products, that target the health market, because they dont' get anything out of it, so why should it interest them to make such bold and brave moves?

They'll take the cowards way out of doing little to nothing, using shrouds like too much red tape, or it's not as simple as that, to fob off people with no significant understanding, of many different political maschinations and their relevant outcomes, regardless of how simple or otherwise, bold statements of action, against poor and potentially unhealthy products, are to make :wink: .
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So far, so good - no drink sticks since Sunday. Flavoring water with Lemon and 1 packet of truvia.

Diet has been really good this week. Have stayed very focused on what I'm eating.

B: Fruit/Whey protein shake
L: beef fajita meat w/grilled onion/pepper/tomato & side of guacamole & sour cream
D: baked chicken w/steamed sweet potato or oven baked new potato. Salad with homemade dressing.

Lots of iced green tea and lemon water.

No pb&j's, no chips, no pasta, no bread, no rice, no packaged foods. I have had a few dark chocolate covered raisins (yum) - hey it dark chocolate....good for your heart! 8)
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fitoverforty wrote:Diet has been really good this week. Have stayed very focused on what I'm eating.

that's great Lynne!! :)
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thanks! it's been tough - have to constantly think and make choices, but I'm sticking to it.

B: scrambled eggs & 3 slices bacon
L: mixed greens salad w/diced apples, strawberries, red grapes, grated carrots, shredded cheese (just a little) and a berry balsamic vinaigrette.
Snack: handful of peanuts w/almonds
D: Shrimp stir fry w/red, yellow bell pepper, onions, avocado topped with a tbsp of greek yogurt (tastes just like sour cream)

no run today. Did 20 incline pushups and 10 tri cep dips - not really worth mentioning. :roll:

weigh in tomorrow a.m.!! :shock: I'm excited and nervous at the same time. :D
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You'll ace it. It's not like it's a test where if you fail to get an A, you'll never graduate to svelt academy, so you'll be fine :).
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Week 1 done

Monday's weigh in = 167
Friday's weigh in = 162 :mrgreen:
That's 5lbs. babeeeee!
I'll take it, I don't care if it is "water" weight. :P Feel better inside and out.
Ran 3 miles this morning, felt awesome. :mrgreen:
Now just gotta get thru the weekend! Been fighting intense cravings for sweets - MUST BE STRONG!!!
I know I've gained and lost the same stinking 5/10 lbs over and over - but this time it's gotta be for good. Tired of the yo-yo'ing.
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fitoverforty wrote:Monday's weigh in = 167
Friday's weigh in = 162
That's 5lbs. babeeeee
5 pounds is great!! i'd be thrilled if i lost 5 pounds in 5 days! Keep it up! good luck this weekend!
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Thanks! I'm gonna try. Only 5lbs more to be back at lowest weight of 157. :D

Got out early this a.m. and rode 14 miles on road bike. Training for a bike race coming up in October. It has 4 different distances you can choose from - 25, 52, 72 or 102 miles. I am planning on riding the 25 mile route, but depending on how well training goes I may switch to the 52 miler. I know I can do the 25 miler right now. But would like the challenge of 52 miles. The race is 6 weeks from now, so will see how it goes. :D :D
Feels good to have a goal. And there are lots of 5k and 10k races coming up for the Fall and Winter, so time to hit the roads for some more serious running training too. Legs feel good, no hammy pain, back is better - IT"S ALL GOOD!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

B: Fruit/Protein Whey Smoothie
Snack: apples in pb
L: beef fajita meat with grilled onion, guacomole, pico gallo
Snack: nuts
D: steamed sweet potato, roasted chicken breast
Snack: greek yogurt w/strawberry
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5lbs in a week is probably water weight to some extent.

5lbs a week on a consistent basis however, would be an indicator of borderline crash dieting, which could eventually lead to loose skin, but in your case I doubt it would turn into that situation.

I've never heard of a 52 miler before, it just sounds absolutely mental.

You should be proud of what you're doing Lynne and I know how hard you are working to make this happen. You ARE getting stronger and you ARE getting even more fitter and more svelt and i'm proud of you and I want you to keep pushing on and keep believing in yourself okay.

Kepe being strong on the funky food, don't give in and keep looking for the plan B's sometimes for food and exercise and keep believing in your own potential, because you are youthfully mature and still have a lot to give to yourself and this world and you CAN become a really, really great rolemodel to others, not just females.

It's great to see you succeeding at this and being consistant now and I know you can continue to do this. If you have any off days or are not sure how to handle certain situations, don't hesistate to ask questions or if you prefer PM me and we'll work things through, because I want you to succeed about as much as you do, because you ARE worth it and you've given a lot to this community, for which I am eternally grateful :).

THANK YOU Lynne, for being a pretty amazing Lady and keep up the hard work :).
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Go for the 52 miler!! if you want that is. glad you are in no pain that is always a very good thing. :D
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fitoverforty wrote:Thanks! I'm gonna try. Only 5lbs more to be back at lowest weight of 157. :D

Got out early this a.m. and rode 14 miles on road bike. Training for a bike race coming up in October. It has 4 different distances you can choose from - 25, 52, 72 or 102 miles. I am planning on riding the 25 mile route, but depending on how well training goes I may switch to the 52 miler. I know I can do the 25 miler right now. But would like the challenge of 52 miles. The race is 6 weeks from now, so will see how it goes. :D :D
Feels good to have a goal. And there are lots of 5k and 10k races coming up for the Fall and Winter, so time to hit the roads for some more serious running training too. Legs feel good, no hammy pain, back is better - IT"S ALL GOOD!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

B: Fruit/Protein Whey Smoothie
Snack: apples in pb
L: beef fajita meat with grilled onion, guacomole, pico gallo
Snack: nuts
D: steamed sweet potato, roasted chicken breast
Snack: greek yogurt w/strawberry
WOW... Lynn.. Diet is looking REALLY good. Ok, That's totally what i'm working on!!! I'm always excited to hear about your races... Keep it up & 5lbs... such a great motivation! :mrgreen:
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Thanks Nokie! Good to hear from you. :D

Monday was a crazy day. son's first day of school. Things were hectic, but managed to eat healthy, except for the last meal, which was a "I'm so tired, I can't think straight anymore" kind of meal. :wink:
B: fruit/whey protein shake / 2 slices bacon
L: Steamed sweet potato w/butter, cinnamon and 1 packet sugar in the raw, roasted chicken w/sliced avocado
Snack: handful peanuts & almonds
D: pb & J on WW rounds. :roll:

Good news is even with all the crazyness I did manage to get a bike ride in (while son was at band practice)
12 miles in 45 minutes - avg pace 16.0 mph :mrgreen:
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