I've been reading lots of success stories for programs that offer meal replacement drinks, like metabolic research and the cambridge diet. Slimfast is similar, just cheaper as it doesn't come with the cheering section or clinical setting.
Even better is a velocity diet I read about on another site (tmuscle.com), which is complete replacement, but requires a ton of supplements and protien powders. It allows for one 'real' meal a week. It's a bit extreme for me, but it seems to be promoted by people I've read about on this forum and others. It must be safe to some degree and it's definitely effective. So maybe these other less extreme plans are safe and effective too, just on a slower/smaller scale.
I'm getting really discouraged because the scale is budging - in the wrong direction.
I understand that I need to learn how to eat properly and all that, but I wonder if you all think the meal replacements are okay for a short while to sort of jumpstart weightloss.
What do you think of meal replacement?
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I personally would not replace any solid meal with liquid.
Things like slimfast contain shit full or sugar and other junks!
I understand you want to do it for a short period of time and I won’t doubt you will lose it.
Because you will not enough and it will suppress your hunger.
But what happen if you stop? You will eat you’re normal way and Bam the weights come back!
I totally understand and feel your discouragement with the stupid scale.
When I first started it took me at least 3-4 months to see some results.
And now... I’m not even losing a pound!
But…. Of course, I will continue to eat healthy style.
I want to keep nutrition as much as I can with solid food.
The only liquid I have would be protein shake.
I understand you want to jump start weight loss… but what happen if you stop?
It’s not only a diet… it’s a life style change…
That's just input...
Things like slimfast contain shit full or sugar and other junks!
I understand you want to do it for a short period of time and I won’t doubt you will lose it.
Because you will not enough and it will suppress your hunger.
But what happen if you stop? You will eat you’re normal way and Bam the weights come back!
I totally understand and feel your discouragement with the stupid scale.
When I first started it took me at least 3-4 months to see some results.
And now... I’m not even losing a pound!
But…. Of course, I will continue to eat healthy style.
I want to keep nutrition as much as I can with solid food.
The only liquid I have would be protein shake.
I understand you want to jump start weight loss… but what happen if you stop?
It’s not only a diet… it’s a life style change…
That's just input...
Last edited by Nokie173 on Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Nutrition should not be rocket science to anyone. Eat 6 small meals per day to feel loaded throughout the day. Eat a lot of green veggies, protein, and good fats (limit saturated and trans to none) and cut down carbs.
Watch out with processed foods, they are almost always high in carbs... I used to eat a lot of crackers until I realized all the crap that was in there... same thing for chips, popcorn, pretzels, nachos, ... and all the Sunday football type of snacks... oh I was about to forget abour BEER AND WINE and alcohol!
Sure you are going to loose weight with the meal replacement drinks... but trust me your cravings are going to go to the roof and the first thing you are going to realize is that the idea wnet garbage and you are going to add more weight than when started and experience the so called YO-YO effect!
advice is to stay away from that crap and educate yourself about nutrition instead.
Agains, this is just $0.02.
Cheers!
Watch out with processed foods, they are almost always high in carbs... I used to eat a lot of crackers until I realized all the crap that was in there... same thing for chips, popcorn, pretzels, nachos, ... and all the Sunday football type of snacks... oh I was about to forget abour BEER AND WINE and alcohol!
Sure you are going to loose weight with the meal replacement drinks... but trust me your cravings are going to go to the roof and the first thing you are going to realize is that the idea wnet garbage and you are going to add more weight than when started and experience the so called YO-YO effect!
advice is to stay away from that crap and educate yourself about nutrition instead.
Agains, this is just $0.02.
Cheers!
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efitnessnyc
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Why limit saturated to none? Saturated fats boost testosterone levels...should be split 33% sats 33% mono 33% 33% polycarllecat wrote:Nutrition should not be rocket science to anyone. Eat 6 small meals per day to feel loaded throughout the day. Eat a lot of green veggies, protein, and good fats (limit saturated and trans to none) and cut down carbs.
Watch out with processed foods, they are almost always high in carbs... I used to eat a lot of crackers until I realized all the crap that was in there... same thing for chips, popcorn, pretzels, nachos, ... and all the Sunday football type of snacks... oh I was about to forget abour BEER AND WINE and alcohol!
Sure you are going to loose weight with the meal replacement drinks... but trust me your cravings are going to go to the roof and the first thing you are going to realize is that the idea wnet garbage and you are going to add more weight than when started and experience the so called YO-YO effect!
advice is to stay away from that crap and educate yourself about nutrition instead.
Agains, this is just $0.02.
Cheers!
For more:
http://ultimate-fatloss-guide.com/truthaboutfat.html
Monos also boost Test levels.
I agree though. Saturates have a 20g limit per day, in respect of a 2,000 calorie a day total.
You can't avoid saturate too easily, I mean even Low Fat Cottage Cheese has about 1g Saturate for around 100g of LFCC, and low Fat Cheese has 2g Saturat eand 2g Unsaturate.
You could try not adding Saturates to things, but to have zero Saturate a day, would be very hard unless you possibly ate Vegan, and I couldn't say that would give a zero saturate a day diet.
I wouldn't agree entirely on the 33%, 33%, 33% thing either, as Fats on a 2,000 a day diet should be around 70g, but Saturates as stated 20g, so that doesn't work, as with that ratio, you'd be getting 23.33g, which is slightly over.
Okay a bit pernickety say, but it could be better to have something like a 30 / 35 / 35 ratio, or maybe a 30 / 40 / 30, with Monos being the 40% figure, becasue they're better than polys.
Of course I personally don't bother counting calories that much, so maybe I'm being a little more liberal in assessment than some would choose to be.
I agree though. Saturates have a 20g limit per day, in respect of a 2,000 calorie a day total.
You can't avoid saturate too easily, I mean even Low Fat Cottage Cheese has about 1g Saturate for around 100g of LFCC, and low Fat Cheese has 2g Saturat eand 2g Unsaturate.
You could try not adding Saturates to things, but to have zero Saturate a day, would be very hard unless you possibly ate Vegan, and I couldn't say that would give a zero saturate a day diet.
I wouldn't agree entirely on the 33%, 33%, 33% thing either, as Fats on a 2,000 a day diet should be around 70g, but Saturates as stated 20g, so that doesn't work, as with that ratio, you'd be getting 23.33g, which is slightly over.
Okay a bit pernickety say, but it could be better to have something like a 30 / 35 / 35 ratio, or maybe a 30 / 40 / 30, with Monos being the 40% figure, becasue they're better than polys.
Of course I personally don't bother counting calories that much, so maybe I'm being a little more liberal in assessment than some would choose to be.
You know what I meant. Saturated fat is almost everywhere. but limit your intake to a reasonable level.efitnessnyc wrote:Why limit saturated to none? Saturated fats boost testosterone levels...should be split 33% sats 33% mono 33% 33% polycarllecat wrote:Nutrition should not be rocket science to anyone. Eat 6 small meals per day to feel loaded throughout the day. Eat a lot of green veggies, protein, and good fats (limit saturated and trans to none) and cut down carbs.
Watch out with processed foods, they are almost always high in carbs... I used to eat a lot of crackers until I realized all the crap that was in there... same thing for chips, popcorn, pretzels, nachos, ... and all the Sunday football type of snacks... oh I was about to forget abour BEER AND WINE and alcohol!
Sure you are going to loose weight with the meal replacement drinks... but trust me your cravings are going to go to the roof and the first thing you are going to realize is that the idea wnet garbage and you are going to add more weight than when started and experience the so called YO-YO effect!
advice is to stay away from that crap and educate yourself about nutrition instead.
Agains, this is just $0.02.
Cheers!
For more:
http://ultimate-fatloss-guide.com/truthaboutfat.html
You all made a simple question complex!
I have a tendency to feel overwhelmed with food right now. Cravings aren't really a huge problem for me and I don't have to visually see a lot of food disappear to feel satisfied. (I don't looooooove food. I do love quick and easy.)
I just wondered if it was more harmful than good for any reason to try something like that!
I have a tendency to feel overwhelmed with food right now. Cravings aren't really a huge problem for me and I don't have to visually see a lot of food disappear to feel satisfied. (I don't looooooove food. I do love quick and easy.)
I just wondered if it was more harmful than good for any reason to try something like that!
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A quick and honest answer to your question...
I would stay away from the meal replacements. Some have a ton of sugar in them and those that don't have sugar often have fake sugar. There are probably some meal replacements out there that would be ok, however consistantly choosing meal replacements over real food is the not best idea.
If you're looking for quick and easy here are some suggestions for simple meals:
-a whole wheat lunch meat sandwich with veggies (if you can't eat a whole sandwich at one sitting simply cut it in half and use half for one meal and half for another)
-2 low fat cheese sticks, veggie sticks, 11 almonds
-low fat or fat free cheese with veggies on the side
-1 hard boiled egg with 3-5 hardboiled eggwhites (I simply boil a TON of eggs at the beginning of each week and peel the whites off to eat and either toss the yolks or feed them to the dogs). You can add low fat/fat free mayo and mustard to this... its pretty tasty.
-boneless skinless chicken breast and sweet potatoes (I make a big batch of chicken breast and mashed sweet potatoes every sunday to hold me over for the whole week).
I hope this helps you. :)
Cassie
I would stay away from the meal replacements. Some have a ton of sugar in them and those that don't have sugar often have fake sugar. There are probably some meal replacements out there that would be ok, however consistantly choosing meal replacements over real food is the not best idea.
If you're looking for quick and easy here are some suggestions for simple meals:
-a whole wheat lunch meat sandwich with veggies (if you can't eat a whole sandwich at one sitting simply cut it in half and use half for one meal and half for another)
-2 low fat cheese sticks, veggie sticks, 11 almonds
-low fat or fat free cheese with veggies on the side
-1 hard boiled egg with 3-5 hardboiled eggwhites (I simply boil a TON of eggs at the beginning of each week and peel the whites off to eat and either toss the yolks or feed them to the dogs). You can add low fat/fat free mayo and mustard to this... its pretty tasty.
-boneless skinless chicken breast and sweet potatoes (I make a big batch of chicken breast and mashed sweet potatoes every sunday to hold me over for the whole week).
I hope this helps you. :)
Cassie
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I was referring to artificial sugars such as sucralose and yes sugar alcohols (polyols). I agree they do have less calories than actual sugars... however those things kind of scare me as they haven't really been around long enough for us to see what kind of long term effects they can have on a person. Plus, I've read some negative literature on maltitol so am a little hesitant to eat large amount of that. It is opinion that anything that causes intense bloating, gas, or diarrhea immediatly after being eaten probably isn't something that I would want in body.
Just thoughts...
Cassie
Just thoughts...
Cassie