CLA and fishoil

[sawhaler]

After reading a few posts on this topic I decided to try this combination to assist in weight loss. I didn't change strength training or cardio training ,yet I have lost 15 lbs. in approx. 7 weeks. I can only assume that these two supplements are the reason for this. vascularity has increased, and I was able to destroy the plateau I was previously unable to get over. I know some have mentioned before that CLA and fishoil react differently in everyone and some do not get anything out of it. I was just wondering if anyone else has had the same experience as I.Or if anyone can explain the science of these 2 supplements.

[littleshelly]

Did you change anything about your diet? How long have you been doing your current exercise routine. If only a short time it may be the exercise is starting to show results. I do believe those supplements can aid in weight loss but that seems like a lot of weight just from the supplements.

[enzzz81]

Scientists like Dr. David Horrobin, a former professor of medicine at the University of Montreal, and Dr. M.A. Mir, a researcher and consultant at the Welsh National School of Medicine in Cardiff, identified two calorie-burning mechanisms that GLA helps to regulate.3, 4 Simply put, GLA does two things to boost your metabolism. First it activates an under-active fat in overweight people known as brown adipose tissue (BAT) to burn calories. Second, GLA activates the ATPase metabolic process, commonly referred to as the “sodium pumpâ€

[Boss Man]

GLA, Gamma Linolenic Acid, is just a byproduct of Alpha Linolenic Acid, (Omega 3), digestion.

So is Di-hommo Gamma Linolenic Acid, (DGLA), and of course EPA and DHA, tha Fish Fats.

Of course such sources can be found significantly in Flax, Omega 3 Eggs, Avocado, Peanuts, Nuts, Oils, Seeds and Soy.

I'm mentioning that, as the study doesn't appear to.

[efitnessnyc]

Yes, fish oil and CLA is great for fat loss, for a few reasons...

1. Fish oil up-regulates mitochondrial machinery and increases oxidation of fats within fat cells.

2. DHA has been shown to prevent the conversion of pre-adipocytes to adipocytes and mediate pre-adipocyte death (kill 'em before they become immortal fat cells).

[efitnessnyc]

I have to say they did nothing for me in terms of weight loss. I have seen benefits of the fish oil in other areas, such as memory retention. I cut out the CLA due to its cost and lack of benefit for me. I'm sure it works differently for other folks, but the only place I lost weight was wallet.

Take 10-12 grams a day

Also remember, diet has to be spot on..

It's tried and true..

[efitnessnyc]

I have to say they did nothing for me in terms of weight loss. I have seen benefits of the fish oil in other areas, such as memory retention. I cut out the CLA due to its cost and lack of benefit for me. I'm sure it works differently for other folks, but the only place I lost weight was wallet.

Take 10-12 grams a day

Also remember, diet has to be spot on..

It's tried and true..

I did.

Not everything works the same for every body. There's no magic pill.

There is no magic pill, but I would be VERY curious to see what your diet was like and the amount of exercise you were doing...

[efitnessnyc]

There is no magic pill, but I would be VERY curious to see what your diet was like and the amount of exercise you were doing...

You can check it out under Allison's Journal in the Workout Journals area. I haven't posted there in a while, but I was posting there during the time I was taking CLA.

The diet was horrendous, not trying to attack you, but that's where your problem is...

[efitnessnyc]

The diet was horrendous, not trying to attack you, but that's where your problem is...

It's changed since then, but I never would have classified it as "horrendous." Would you mind explaining?

Sure!

Looking at the first post in the journal..(Unless you somehow drastically changed your diet)

Brown rice and whole wheat bread for breakfast...

Intake of fat after a workout Ie; milk....goats milk...

That's completely counter-productive...I haven't read past that...

If fat loss is the goal do not be digesting carbs other than fruits or veggies with breakfast....

Regardless of goal do not drink milk post workout as a meal...

Here is a simple guide to follow:

1. Eat every 2-3 hours, no matter what. You should eat between 5-8 meals per day.

2. Eat complete (containing all the essential amino acids), lean protein with each meal.

3. Eat fruits and/or vegetables with each food meal.

4. Ensure that your carbohydrate intake comes from fruits and vegetables. Exception: workout and post-workout drinks and meals.

5. Ensure that 25-35% of your energy intake comes from fat, with your fat intake split equally between saturates (e.g. animal fat), monounsaturates (e.g., olive oil), and polyunsaturates (e.g. flax oil, salmon oil).

6. Drink only non-calorie containing beverages, the best choices being water and green tea.

7. Eat mostly whole foods (except workout and post-workout drinks).
So what about calories, or macronutrient ratios? The short answer is that if you aren’t already practicing the above-mentioned habits, and by practicing them I mean putting them to use over 90% of the time (i.e., no more than 4 meals out of an average 42 meals per week violate any of those rules), everything else is pretty pointless.


Once you have that down, than tweak and individualize.....

[efitnessnyc]

Sure!

Looking at the first post in the journal..(Unless you somehow drastically changed your diet)

Brown rice and whole wheat bread for breakfast...

Intake of fat after a workout Ie; milk....goats milk...

That's completely counter-productive...I haven't read past that...

If fat loss is the goal do not be digesting carbs other than fruits or veggies with breakfast....

Regardless of goal do not drink milk post workout as a meal...

Here is a simple guide to follow:

1. Eat every 2-3 hours, no matter what. You should eat between 5-8 meals per day.

2. Eat complete (containing all the essential amino acids), lean protein with each meal.

3. Eat fruits and/or vegetables with each food meal.

4. Ensure that your carbohydrate intake comes from fruits and vegetables. Exception: workout and post-workout drinks and meals.

5. Ensure that 25-35% of your energy intake comes from fat, with your fat intake split equally between saturates (e.g. animal fat), monounsaturates (e.g., olive oil), and polyunsaturates (e.g. flax oil, salmon oil).

6. Drink only non-calorie containing beverages, the best choices being water and green tea.

7. Eat mostly whole foods (except workout and post-workout drinks).
So what about calories, or macronutrient ratios? The short answer is that if you aren’t already practicing the above-mentioned habits, and by practicing them I mean putting them to use over 90% of the time (i.e., no more than 4 meals out of an average 42 meals per week violate any of those rules), everything else is pretty pointless.


Once you have that down, than tweak and individualize.....

It has actually changed drastically since then. I've been seeing a trainer who has set up an individualized diet plan for me. The milk in whey isolate shake was almond "milk," so there's no fat there. The kefir with lunch is like yogurt, except it's made from goat instead of cow.

Anyway, I've got to have carbs with breakfast or I don't feel well. I trade off these days between a protein shake with oats and flax seeds, and egg whites on Ezekiel bread. It's been working pretty well for me. I've never done well with diet, knowing everything that you've said before, because it doesn't matter how many times I hear "40% protein, 30% carbs, 30% fat," it don't compute in head. It has taken someone sitting down with me to figure out what I eat and planning meals for me, and it's made a great difference.

Just "horrendous" to me is nowhere near what I was eating. Verbiage is the same problem I've had with BMI. If I register as "obese," what do you call the 500-pound person?

Anyway, thanks for the tips. I'd still rather not spend $40/month on CLA.

Did you want an explanation or a pat on the back??

Best of luck....