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Perhaps what you feel is muscular and you think it isn't, because you believe what you attempted to research online.

I'm not saying they are automatically right or you're wrong, but one side of the coin is, they are wrong and are missing one or more salient aspects of your problem(s), the other side is, you attempted a kind of self diagnosis and came to a conclusion that might actually be partially or totally wrong.
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I see what you're saying, but i just don't see it happening. Her advice for treatment is stretching and working on breathing, aka breathing through abs, both of which Ive been doing for months and months on end, isn't getting any better.

I can't help but feel they're wrong, so many tendons and joints seem affected to keep calling it muscular.
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Ah but if it's muscles in the Hip like the Obturator Sternus, Superior Gamellus, Inferior Gamellus and Piriformis, or the Rotator Cuff ones, Subscpularis, Teres Minor, Supraspinatus and Infraspinatus, then problems with those could do what you said, as they are connected each by a tendon to the Ball and socket joints.

So one or more of those hip muscles and one or more of those Rotator Cuff muscles being tight or having lopsided development and causing impariment or stress on the associated tendons and the movement of those muscles could affect the joints also.

So it might not be a wise move to rule out a muscle problem, but to be mindful of it just incase.
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I can see what it is your saying, but it just seems deeper than that and harder to diagnose of course, being me.

Besides, if it's related to that, then likely a problem with trigger points and myofascia but Ive been doing soft tissue work and flexibility and what not for a while now anyway, the problems aren't getting better, it just seems like this could go on litreally forever and im losing patience.

right knee is becomming really painful, the pes anserinus area tires so easily and the pain is really bad, even when walking, before i have the MRI on the 13th, im going to try to speak to the radiographer before hand and explain all this to him, and although he's probably going to review the scan enough as it is, if i say to him about it, he may be able to pick out something that he wouldn't of done if he knew nothing about me.

It's even to painful to stretch, i think it's going to be a case of having to, have some type of anesthetic or cortisone into that area, just so the inflammation calms down and it can get fixed up. About 80% confident it's got to be bursitis, it's in the pes anserinus area, and no other conditions seem to really affect it other than bursitis, although someone told me bursitis is a symptom and not a cause, so that's a further worry...
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What I'm saying is, those 8 muscles on each side, all have connecting tendons to the two respective ball and socket joints, so if you have a problem with one or more of the 4 muscles in the hip cuff and 1 or more in the Rotator cuff, that could possibly cause an issue with the movement of the muscles, the tendond and therefore the shoulders and hips themselves.
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I see that but i feel the treatment has been poor. Stretches, stretches, and stretches, which i was already doing before. And she advises me to work through joint pain, not prepared to do that anymore.

Might have to go back to the GP and get referred to a different practice, more time, which i don't have to waste anymore for god sake, back is killing me right now from driving home, absoultley agony, even though Ive been standing/walking for most of the day. The pain seems to be in the lumbar region, but the SI joint i feel is the culprit referring the pain.
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mistake there Martin. I read your previous post and thought you'd said "i can't see what you're saying", so I reiterated point. I have reread it and now see it says "can" not "can't".

Slight observational mistake.
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No problem, easy mistake.

Im just really hoping for some positive feedback soon, next thing is an MRI on right knee on the 13th of Oct. Ive been reading a lot and fibromyalgia seemed to relate A LOT to symptoms. But i don't think i have it, as some of the areas of the body from a diagram are ment to be really painful to the touch, i touched most and they didn't hurt much. Plus things like tiredness/lethargic, i get that quite often.

It's easy to overthink about things when there's problems in most places of the body.
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Yes. You could start to be too analytical about things and jump; from one conclusion to another.

The human body can have conditions that in much of the symptomology, mirror other conditions; infact some conditions can be diagnosed wrongly, due the symptomology being very indentical in lots of ways. So even experienced medics sometimes misdiagnose through no fault of their own.

So you could be looking for a difficult answer and finding your research yields no definitive clarity.
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Yeah i understand that a lot more as Ive been reading a myofascia pain book lately and it explains many misdiagnosed problems caused simply by trigger points.

I just don't know what to do anymore, i have an MRI in 11 days, ok, that's one thing, if nothing comes up im going to be kicking myself for an answer. Then an "orthopaedic" clinic appointment at london on the 19th. What annoys me about this is that it'll likely just be an assessment by a physiotherapist, so Ive had to go up london to see one, when there's one at a clinic 15mins away, although the help from her i haven't liked.

I was thinking of booking another doctors appointment, just to have a discussion with one of the doctors, plus im going to have to get another sick note/disability for claim. Something i hate doing. I just want to be pain free without restrictions so i can get a job, even if it's a lousy one, just so i can start saving and i want to get back to being active, running and training, i feel Ive waited more than long enough now.

I mean i could say to them all day long, the physio keeps giving me stretches, i first saw her in june and it's made no improvement, and all she keeps saying is it takes time, i don't want to go there anymore. But even if they decide to refer me to anywhere else, it's still going to take months and i hate feeling that the GP's are the one's in power and if they don't agree with your problem you will have to suffer it. I feel these aren't specific injuries such as torn ligaments, fractures, nothing like that will show up. I feel it's a deeper non urgent problem like certain muscles causing dysfunction and the whole chain having to suffer. I think a good release massage may be all i need, a form of ART, problem is, how can i afford it for whole body, im broke right now because Ive been living off savings, which Ive ran out of!

On a side note left wrist is really weak, compared to right, i notice it when i read a book at night, it feels just weak and loose. Problem #54, just getting fucking sick of this, always seems to be something wrong with me, i hate body.
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One really good way to strengthen the wrists is use a foam ball and keep squeezing it.

Avoid Wrist curls, becasue they could just strress the joints and possibly increase the risk of Scaphoid and Ulna problems and Carpel Tunnel as well.

Also those spring loaded wrist gripper resistance devices, are not necessarily good for the wrists either as they might cause strain.
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I wasn't sure if it was an imbalance between wrist extensors and flexors, the extensors being weaker, as i didn't really go in depth that much.

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That's where it normally hurts, for this i have tried some light reverse wrist curls in the past, but only a couple of times, not really long enough, as i don't feel it's working and normally hear clicking in the wrist.

It's weird because grip is decent, yet wrist is weak.
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Ughhh, thinking, thinking, thinking, too much.

I really need to get life together, otherwise im slowly but surely going to have a mental breakdown somewhere in the future. I try to hide how i feel usually and put on a cover but i know i really need to decide exactly what it is, that im going to do with life. Firstly, what am i interested in? Well, i dunno, something along the lines of sports medicine is what i first thought, but more understanding injuries, how to them, and what not, there's always people in need of help and instead of a physiotherapist giving out stretches, i think something different along those lines.

Enjoying the job > money. With that said, id like a job with financial security, id like to be able to get things i like within reason. Say a pair of trainers or shoes id like, id like to be able to go out and buy those without hesitation, where as at the moment where im broke i can't even consider that option.

But, for a career in that path, surely id need to go to university. I feel i need to hurry up and decide because im getting older, next year i will be 20. Im not thick, but at times i doubt how much i can learn. What i mean by this is the electricial course i was on, i learnt NOTHING. Litreally, nothing. I don't know anything more than you guys, or someone who hasn't done the course, and i was doing it for at least 2 good years. Why is this? Am i dumb? Or where i wasn't interested at all, did i not learn nothing? I think did i make a mistake quitting the 3rd year electrical, but i doubt it. I didn't feel capable of passing the exams and as much as people say it's a good career, i really didn't like it and i was shit at it completely, so why bother..
The other thing is the other day, a friend was explaning to me how to play a game of cards, and i was just sitting there and thinking, this isn't going into head at all, and i felt so stupid and that it was difficult for me to learn, although i got there in the end..

Dunno why im bringing this up but thought i would as it popped into head with the rest of this stuff, some of which Ive forgot already. About 3-4 family members before have mentioned that i should be a model, do modeeling apply for something, i dunno, but straight away without hesitation i have refused any consideration along them lines, it doesn't feel something i can do, perhaps self concidence comes into it or what not. I feel im fairly attractive, i know the recent pictures may not show it, but i don't really look like that, i'll try toget a more up to date one up soon but again, i don't like doing so. Im nothing special in that respect at all..

When i was off school for a while and missed a lot of time, i got behind and expected grades dropped, in business however, i was able to achieve expected grades and more, i got a B, but you know, it was BTEC, no exams, and i found the work very easy as did most people.

Once im no longer a cripple i'll get any job possible, it's going to be low wage, but at least i can do stuff during the day which will contribute in me saving for own car and insurance, own freedom, sharing is ok and it's convenient for me, but i need own space.

I really don't know, somethings like listening to peoples symptoms and giving them advice is good - similar to a doctor, but im not academic enough for anything like that i feel. I have 2 NVQ's from the electrical courses, doubt they're equivalent to A-levels or anything like that though.

I just feel there isn't a job out there which will suit ME.

Life is fucked already.
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