lose fat, gain muscle

[robertKing]

iv been working out for some 6-8 months and so far yes i have gained weight and
iv definitely gotten bigger and stronger. but with that, iv also gained some fat.
i really want to lose fat and at the same time gain more muscle. i want to bulk
up to at least 155 lbs (im 140 now) and then tone down to 150ish. whats the best way to do this?
should i use creatine? let me know!

[Boss Man]

I'd aim for greater mass than 150. You're on 155, so go for more than that. 1lb of added muscle burns around 45-50 calories, so more is better.

As for Creatine, in your case results would almost certainly be poor, so avoid it. Plus the water retention off most of them, would just add weight, not really help to remove Fat.

[jamecky]

It is a fine balance between diet and exercise. You may want to check out this article. I found the info to be helpful.

http://www.fitness2health.com/body-buil ... scle-fast/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[grazynamil]

I don't do any powders and would not recommend them to anybody.
I hear they are not so good for you.
Loose fat = intake less calories that you burn during the day and night.
So it is a constant battle between loosing less muscle then fat.
I am doing a random "skip a meal" game that is a result of how I ate in the last day or so.
The best rule? - If you're not hungry - don't eat.
Don't eat because it's dinner time - eat when you're hungry.
I am a girl so regime is a bit different, but calorie rule works for all of us.
If I need motivation I usually start from firgirlfactory.com - all the links there are fitness related.
I am not sure if should be here (this forum that is)....

[Fygle]

[Boss Man]

Not being rude to you or anything like that, but I felt I should respond to what you posted below.

I don't do any powders and would not recommend them to anybody.
I hear they are not so good for you.

(Don't know where you hard that but you're wrong. Some people might have a slight problem with Maltodextrin, which can cause bloating on occasion, whether it's freeform or in a Protein powder.

As for other powders, Creatine is only bad if you use too much. Protein powders are only bad if you have Gout or consume too much and increase Kidney stone risk or Gout risk, if you don't already have Gout. However those are Protein related issues, not solely down to intake of Powders.)

Loose fat = intake less calories that you burn during the day and night.
So it is a constant battle between loosing less muscle then fat.

(Losing fat comes from good exercise and controlled calories. Yes more burn than consumption, more out, less in, but it's not as simple as you make it sound.)

I am doing a random "skip a meal" game that is a result of how I ate in the last day or so.
The best rule? - If you're not hungry - don't eat.

(Doesn't equate too well. If you eat every 2.5-3 hours, you might not feel hungry after 3 hours, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't eat then.)

Don't eat because it's dinner time - eat when you're hungry.

(Do eat when it's dinner time. If you're eating a scheduled meal, you will be eating to a system which should work. If people eat when hungry, sometimes it can be that they're snacking badly or picking at food, due to inadequate caloric consumption.

Being properly satiated, should allow a good regulated consumtion pattern, without needless picking or bad snacking between meals)

I am a girl so regime is a bit different, but calorie rule works for all of us.

(To a point, but everyone's different, so it's ballpark calories or rule of thumb for everyone. There's no one specific way and no cast iron methodology to weight loss.)

If I need motivation I usually start from firgirlfactory.com - all the links there are fitness related.
I am not sure if should be here (this forum that is)....

You're quick off the mark there. Firstly, your domain is misspelt and secondly, it's only been registered on September 1st 2010, so how do you know about it so soon? It's been there less than a week and It's only got one Google listing, which indicates it's been registered.

Paid for inclusion could have had it listed on Google inside of 5-7 days, but it looks like that hasn't happened.

We'd be happy to have you around the site, if you're just going to contribute and add value ot the community, but if you're just looking to do some subtle promotion of your site, or a site belonging to someone you know, then please don't.

[robertKing]

@bossman: i talked to a trainer and he said that creatine will help me bulk up and gain muscle. wouldnt that be
an easier way to gain muscle? im goin to college soon so getting a good diet of enough calories will become hard, so
i thought creatine would be helpful in this case. i asked the trainer if i could use creatine on loading phase for
around 2 months and stop and tone down a bit. he said that was fine. would you recommend working out while
loading on creatine for 2 months + doing fat burn cardio? and then taking a 1 month break from creatine and toning
down? btw im 5'7" 18 years old, what should desired weight be? should 155 be good? im currently 140.

thanks!

[Bonnie]

ATP & Creatine are natural phosphates made within the muscle which is depleted quickly, when the muscles are used at their highest potential.Boss man or les, how does the creatine we ingest get used within the body ? If you look at pics robert, I had most of muscle BEFORE starting creatine, so not sure how much it helps.

[Bonnie]

Thanks les for the explanation Yes diet & determination.

[Boss Man]

Creatine does not build muscle as stated, it has a by proxy effect or secondary effect. By increasing power output, you could potentially lift more, thereby increasing muscle regrowth potential.

However as stated, if you don't eat and train properly or haven't been lifting long and have a fairly unsubstantial power base, then you'll get poor results. I used it, must be about 9.5 years ago and the results were poor. I'd almost certainly get better ones now, but I wouldn't bother now.

I doubt if they were better they'd be that much better as to be acceptable.

[ginger1051]

You should try the 1000 calorie challenge!!! It claims you will definately gain lotsa muscle but tone all the fat and quick.. check it out!!!

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[Bonnie]

No one should eat as little as 1000 calories, thats ridiculous.

[Boss Man]

You should try the 1000 calorie challenge!!! It claims you will definately gain lotsa muscle but tone all the fat and quick.. check it out!!!

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Sorry no hop links here. You might not be directly responsible for the link, or affiliated to the person whose page it is, but even if you might just be casually linking to it, links are designed to generate pay per click incomes, so they're not permitted.

[BillyG]

all in the diet..

i can eat 3000 cals with high fat and carb content..

and i can eat 3000 cals with a a low fat and carb content .
which do you think will give me a better bulk in the long run?

the 2nd..
read the back of the labels, cut out high fatty foods, and replace them with stuff you need.

and even when you are bulking EXPECT to put on some fat.. but you can limit it, and stay with in the 9-12%body fat ratio

[superman11]

lose fat, gain muscle
To lose fat you should eat right, To lose weight and get a healthy body.

To lose weight you should eat low protein, low carb, no fat and drink more water.

in breakfast eat average, in lunch eat less and in dinner eat less less or try to not eat.
Good luck.
Thank you,