H-Drol
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I'd say probably forget it. Most products called bol, drol, dione, diol, etc etc, are just Prohormones or Steroids.
They carry side effects, and unless you train really hard, they won't work too well, and unless you eat like a herd of buffalo, you'll lose everything.
I'm not going to say don't take it period, but unless you were 190lbs+, and had real trouble getting extra mass off big calories, and more commonly used supplements like Protein, Creatine, etc etc, then don't bother, as you would have other options to explore besides that stuff.
Plus if it's not one with a built in Liver protectorant, you'd have to buy a seperate one, which would ramp up your costs.
They carry side effects, and unless you train really hard, they won't work too well, and unless you eat like a herd of buffalo, you'll lose everything.
I'm not going to say don't take it period, but unless you were 190lbs+, and had real trouble getting extra mass off big calories, and more commonly used supplements like Protein, Creatine, etc etc, then don't bother, as you would have other options to explore besides that stuff.
Plus if it's not one with a built in Liver protectorant, you'd have to buy a seperate one, which would ramp up your costs.
I have used Creatine and almost always have a post shake with added glutamine. I know I might loose some of what I gain. I plan on taking a post cycle pill of some kind as well to try and keep some of what I do gain.
As for liver toxicity I don’t plan on using anything. Stuff can’t be too bad compared to all the binge drinkers out there. Milk thistle supp is recommended though. Might have to do some more research first.
As for why I would say just to gain an edge. I don’t want to eat so much I start to get fat. I would be training as hard as possible and eating as smart as I know how.
I used a similar supp called jungle warfare made by ALRI the gains I had from it were the best I ever had. I was also training hardest and eating best so that would have had something to do with it. I got some horns on back while I was on it which was kind of uncomfortable. Had a little more rage that normal as well but I like that part. Lol
If anyone else knows anything about H-Drol formally known as Haladrol by Gaspri I would like to hear your input
As for liver toxicity I don’t plan on using anything. Stuff can’t be too bad compared to all the binge drinkers out there. Milk thistle supp is recommended though. Might have to do some more research first.
As for why I would say just to gain an edge. I don’t want to eat so much I start to get fat. I would be training as hard as possible and eating as smart as I know how.
I used a similar supp called jungle warfare made by ALRI the gains I had from it were the best I ever had. I was also training hardest and eating best so that would have had something to do with it. I got some horns on back while I was on it which was kind of uncomfortable. Had a little more rage that normal as well but I like that part. Lol
If anyone else knows anything about H-Drol formally known as Haladrol by Gaspri I would like to hear your input
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impurities is just one reason, these companies get this crap from china and cap it in the states...Boss Man wrote:Out of interest, why do you say that? Is it because you feel that prohormones are messed with, or have more impurities?
Aside from that, nobody really knows there long term side effects...At least testosterone been around for nearly 80 yrs, so we know what thats about..But all these supplements that are altered chemical structures seems to me like the people that take them are nothing but lab rats....
Yeah they may work, but at what cost?
These companies don't care, it's all about the dollar to them...
If there were one I would take, I may leans towards I-forces Bold 1,4 AD...But if I had choice, I would just shoot EQ instead...
Equipoise, interesting. The big player as such of those, has supposedly been Dianabol so I believe.
Personally you will still get sides off the A.A.S. anyway, like Gyno, little testes, baldness etc etc.
I've never seen a good argument for bodybuilders taking them anyway. I mean if some guy was 18" natural, I think most people wouldn't mess with him, especially if he was someone certified with some kind of belt discipline, or at least a good amateur boxer.
One guy on a site once claimed, well having more mass than a natural can get, is useful in a fight, but thought is, you could still get people trying to dick with you, when you're in your 70's, but no one is going to be juicing in their 70's, and carrying 230lb frames.
I even heard of a guy who was lifting so much on gear, he had to reduce what he was lifting, and stop the gear, because he'd messed up his Rotator Cuffs.
You're right about China though, although what would your thoughts be on homebrew, where you buy the basic compounds if you like, from China, and make your own, or would you consider that a risk of impurities, and poor quality, unequal manufacturing?
Personally I could see that sort of risk being possible.
I suspecty hygiene isn't too good in some Asian countries. I've heard of such countries growing Peanuts, sometimes storing healthy ones next to ones with mould and Aflatoxins, or sometimes in conditions that are dirty, or where animals might urinate on the Peanuts.
So I suspect impure Homebrew A.A.S. components, are likely too, in a similar scenario to Prohormones.
Personally you will still get sides off the A.A.S. anyway, like Gyno, little testes, baldness etc etc.
I've never seen a good argument for bodybuilders taking them anyway. I mean if some guy was 18" natural, I think most people wouldn't mess with him, especially if he was someone certified with some kind of belt discipline, or at least a good amateur boxer.
One guy on a site once claimed, well having more mass than a natural can get, is useful in a fight, but thought is, you could still get people trying to dick with you, when you're in your 70's, but no one is going to be juicing in their 70's, and carrying 230lb frames.
I even heard of a guy who was lifting so much on gear, he had to reduce what he was lifting, and stop the gear, because he'd messed up his Rotator Cuffs.
You're right about China though, although what would your thoughts be on homebrew, where you buy the basic compounds if you like, from China, and make your own, or would you consider that a risk of impurities, and poor quality, unequal manufacturing?
Personally I could see that sort of risk being possible.
I suspecty hygiene isn't too good in some Asian countries. I've heard of such countries growing Peanuts, sometimes storing healthy ones next to ones with mould and Aflatoxins, or sometimes in conditions that are dirty, or where animals might urinate on the Peanuts.
So I suspect impure Homebrew A.A.S. components, are likely too, in a similar scenario to Prohormones.